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From: Timo Sirainen <tss@iki.fi>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: nfs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [NFS] Cache flushing
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 04:03:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1195351429.6039.259.camel@hurina> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1195346790.8908.0.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>


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On Sat, 2007-11-17 at 19:46 -0500, Trond Myklebust wrote:

> Right. I understood that you were not using fcntl() locks. Those will
> in
> any case ensure cache revalidation, so you wouldn't have to use
> anything
> else.

I just noticed that FreeBSD's fcntl() locking doesn't flush either
attribute or data cache. So things seem to be a lot more difficult to
handle with it.

> On Sun, 2007-11-18 at 02:26 +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote:
> > Most people are using NetApps, and they also seem to have 1 second  
> > resolution (at least the one I just tested had). So this isn't a  
> > solution. "Let's hope that there are no writes less than 1 second  
> > apart" isn't really a solution either. People like their mailboxes  
> > uncorrupted.
> 
> No. NetApp filers and WAFL have nanosecond resolution. They should be
> fine.

I guess I ran my test accidentally on local filesystem. I see only
microsecond resolution though, the last 3 digits in st_mtim.tv_nsec are
always zeroes. But maybe that's enough to be trusted.

Looks like this mtime checking works only with close+open, but not with
fchown()ing the file. That explains a few other things I was mistaken
about as well.

BTW. I've been writing these things down to
http://iki.fi/tss/nfs-coding-howto.html. Would be nice to know if there
are still some mistakes in it.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-18  2:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-17  0:11 Cache flushing Timo Sirainen
2007-11-17 19:46 ` [NFS] " Trond Myklebust
     [not found]   ` <1195328785.6999.5.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-17 20:12     ` Timo Sirainen
2007-11-17 20:41       ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]         ` <1195332062.6999.20.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-17 22:11           ` Timo Sirainen
2007-11-17 23:52             ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]               ` <1195343531.7084.11.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-18  0:26                 ` Timo Sirainen
2007-11-18  0:46                   ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                     ` <1195346790.8908.0.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-18  2:03                       ` Timo Sirainen [this message]
2007-11-20  2:14             ` Timo Sirainen
2007-11-20 23:47               ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                 ` <1195602454.7234.100.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-21 13:14                   ` Timo Sirainen
2007-11-21 13:56                     ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                       ` <1195653389.8374.4.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-21 20:36                         ` Timo Sirainen
2007-11-21 20:39                           ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                             ` <1195677569.8374.18.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-21 20:56                               ` Timo Sirainen
2007-11-21 21:15                                 ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                   ` <1195679737.8374.34.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-22  0:52                                     ` Timo Sirainen

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