From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
To: maillists0@gmail.com
Cc: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Proxy
Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 18:16:13 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1272924973.7559.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <t2ndc64e7231005031414ob1ca0ebaze725bb73e712234d@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 17:14 -0400, maillists0@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Trond Myklebust
> <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-05-03 at 14:56 -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> >> On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 12:53:15PM -0400, maillists0@gmail.com wrote:
> >> > With NFS4's support for referrals and Kerberos, it seems like the
> >> > original reasons to prevent re-exporting of an NFS share might no
> >> > longer exist. With fs-proxy making its way into the mainline kernel
> >> > and things like cachefilesd, there are also very good reasons to allow
> >> > it. A proxy server with a persistent cache could give the ability to
> >> > robustly use shares across a WAN or do failover pairs with no need for
> >> > more complex replication. Speaking as an end-user, this would be very
> >> > desirable.
> >> >
> >> > I see that others have implemented proxies with user-space NFS, which
> >> > seems reasonable but not optimal. What is the obstacle to allowing
> >> > re-exports with the standard nfs implentation? Is it possible at the
> >> > moment to patch a kernel to make this work? Anyone have experience
> >> > with it? Any input is appreciated.
> >>
> >> It's probably possible, but some kernel hacking would be required.
> >>
>
> Have a look at this old thing from 2006:
> http://www.usenix.org/event/fast07/tech/full_papers/gulati/gulati_html/nache.html
> . They claim to have implemented a proxy with only the tools I
> mentioned above, along with their own modified version of nfs to allow
> multi-hops.
>
> I have a workload of lots of reads/almost no writes, and their
> approach makes sense. It would be a great feature. Is something
> missing from that paper that makes it unrealistic?
Possibly not for your workload, but none of the issues Bruce and I
raised appear to be addressed in that paper.
Furthermore, we do know several of the authors, and none of them have
ever approached us with a proposal to merge their implementation. I
therefore assume that it was written more as a proof of concept in
support of the paper, rather than something IBM is actually planning to
market.
Cheers
Trond
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Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-03 16:53 Proxy maillists0
2010-05-03 18:56 ` Proxy J. Bruce Fields
2010-05-03 19:25 ` Proxy Trond Myklebust
2010-05-03 21:14 ` Proxy maillists0
2010-05-03 22:16 ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
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