From: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Suresh Jayaraman <sjayaraman@suse.de>,
Linux NFS mailing list <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] nfs: support legacy NFS flock behavior via mount option
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:42:42 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1283899362.9097.42.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100908082336.3efda031@notabene>
On Wed, 2010-09-08 at 08:23 +1000, Neil Brown wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:17:19 -0400
> Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 2010-09-06 at 18:03 +0530, Suresh Jayaraman wrote:
> > > NFS clients since 2.6.12 support flock()locks by emulating the
> > > BSD-style locks in terms of POSIX byte range locks. So the NFS client
> > > does not allow to lock the same file using both flock() and fcntl
> > > byte-range locks.
> > >
> > > For some Windows applications which seem to use both share mode locks
> > > (flock()) and fcntl byte range locks sequentially on the same file,
> > > the locking is failing as the lock has already been acquired. i.e. the
> > > flock mapped as posix locks collide with actual byte range locks from
> > > the same process. The problem was observed on a setup with Windows
> > > clients accessing Excel files on a Samba exported share which is
> > > originally a NFS mount from a NetApp filer. Since kernels < 2.6.12 does
> > > not support flock, what was working (as flock locks were local) in
> > > older kernels is not working with newer kernels.
> > >
> > > This could be seen as a bug in the implementation of the windows
> > > application or a NFS client regression, but that is debatable.
> > > In the spirit of not breaking existing setups, this patch adds mount
> > > options "flock=local" that enables older flock behavior and
> > > "flock=fcntl" that allows the current flock behavior.
> >
> > So instead of having a special option for flock only, what say we rather
> > introduce an option of the form
> >
> > -olocal_lock=
> >
> > which can take the values 'none', 'flock', 'fcntl' (or 'posix'?) and
> > 'all'?
>
> I observe that the NLM protocol has support for 'share' reservations.
> Requesting 'access == READ, mode==DENY_WRITE' is like a shared lock,
> and 'access = WRITE, mode== DENY_READ_WRITE' is like an exclusive lock.
>
> As samba maps theh share reservations into flock locks, it could make sense
> for NFS to (optionally) map flock locks into share reservations.
>
> The current Linux nfsd handles contention between these reservations entirely
> internally, but it could conceivably grow an option to map them into flock
> lock, just like samba does.
>
> If this were at all a possible future direction, I would like to ensure that
> option names chosen now allowed for that extension.
> flock=local and flock=fcntl naturally extends to flock=share
>
> local_lock= doesn't really extend ... unless shared_lock=flock, but that
> seems a bit backwards.
>
> Is that a direction we could ever want to go?
I'd be against it for several reasons:
* Ordinary flock locks are advisory, whereas deny share
reservations are special mandatory locks. In fact if you look at
the Samba implementation, it uses a special 'LOCK_MAND' flag in
addition to the usual flock() flag.
* DENY_WRITE and DENY_BOTH share reservation modes break unlink()
behaviour on posix systems.
* Once the file has been opened with a given access mode, my
interpretation of the protocol is that you cannot change the
deny mode without closing any conflicting shares first. (Section
8.9 says: This checking of share reservations on OPEN is done
with no exception for an existing OPEN for the same open_owner.)
Cheers
Trond
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-07 22:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-06 12:33 [RFC][PATCH] nfs: support legacy NFS flock behavior via mount option Suresh Jayaraman
2010-09-07 13:40 ` Jeff Layton
2010-09-07 14:17 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-09-07 16:08 ` Jeff Layton
2010-09-07 17:06 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-09-07 20:13 ` Suresh Jayaraman
2010-09-07 20:49 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-09-08 14:36 ` Suresh Jayaraman
2010-09-08 16:50 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-09-07 22:23 ` Neil Brown
2010-09-07 22:42 ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2010-09-08 0:04 ` Neil Brown
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