From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
Moazam Raja <moazam@gmail.com>,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: O_DIRECT, O_SYNC, or fsync() on NFS mounts?
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 15:01:55 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1290369715.5481.26.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101121104624.GA13874@infradead.org>
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 05:46 -0500, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 04:26:35PM -0500, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > If the application requests O_DIRECT/O_SYNC or calls fsync(), we are
> > required by POSIX to ensure the data is safe on disk. The presence of an
> > NFS delegation does not change that requirement.
>
> That's not quite correct. O_DIRECT for one is not actually specific in
> Posix at all, and the documented Linux semantics only say that the
> pagecache should not be used (even if it sometimes is with various
> filesystems). There is not guarantee that data actually is on disk or
> reachable, for that you need to add the O_SYNC/O_DYSNC flag in addition
> or use fsync/fdatasync.
True.
We treat the O_DIRECT case as being the same as O_DIRECT|O_SYNC because
we don't currently have a way to locate and track outstanding O_DIRECT
rpc calls, and so fsync() has no effect.
We do, however support aio/dio, and so people who want better writev()
syscall latency can use that...
Cheers
Trond
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-21 20:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-18 23:34 O_DIRECT, O_SYNC, or fsync() on NFS mounts? Moazam Raja
2010-11-19 19:24 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-11-19 19:55 ` Chuck Lever
2010-11-19 20:04 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-11-19 21:26 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-11-19 21:48 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-11-21 10:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-21 19:31 ` Moazam Raja
2010-11-21 20:01 ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
[not found] ` <AANLkTi=AV20AsUKOGfVg6M92T8LfPLuuyrG_hQESw_RU@mail.gmail.com>
2010-11-20 23:54 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <AANLkTikFfdMWs0b4V1doVYUx1T96+ef8-dMUZf3v8cW9@mail.gmail.com>
2010-11-22 18:04 ` Trond Myklebust
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