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From: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
To: Spelic <spelic@shiftmail.org>
Cc: Spencer Shepler <spencer.shepler@gmail.com>,
	Daniel.Muntz@emc.com, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: NFSv4 behaviour on unknown users
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 08:04:23 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1291122263.3204.2.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CF4E38B.4050706@shiftmail.org>

On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 12:44 +0100, Spelic wrote:
> On 11/30/2010 01:02 AM, Spencer Shepler wrote:
> >> It would not be backwards compatible: the linux server will currently
> >> reject any uid/gid usage by the client.
> >>
> >> That said, I can imagine that for 'sec=sys', we might be able to change
> >> the client to use the uid/gid format by default, and then change back to
> >> doing name@domain upon receiving the first NFS4ERR_BADOWNER error from the
> >> server.
> >> It the server changes to match this, then that might suffice solve the
> >> current problem that we have with doing nfsroot on NFSv4...
> >>      
> > IMO: I wouldn't worry about the mixed scenarios to start with.
> > Provide the option on the client and server to use the straight-up
> > uid/gid to string mappings and this will satisfy these simple
> > deployments that are or will have trouble.
> >    
> 
> +1 for this.  Changing mapping on the fly at the first NFS4ERR_BADOWNER 
> received does not look very reliable to me: is scarcely controllable by 
> the sysadmin and is gonna make the thing a headache to debug the first 
> time it happens unwillingly (maybe the sysadmin was changing some config 
> on the server and suddenly the everything stops working and he needs to 
> restart the nfs client to restore things but this is scarcely 
> intuitive...). +1 for simply providing a clear-upfront option for using 
> numeric UIDs/GIDs.
> 
> Thanks for your understanding :-)

Sorry, but BADOWNER is an error that means "I don't get it" and the spec
_is_ adamant about what the client should do. This is a take it or leave
it: I'm not going to waste a lot of time and effort on this.

Trond

-- 
Trond Myklebust
Linux NFS client maintainer

NetApp
Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com
www.netapp.com


  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-30 13:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-29 18:12 NFSv4 behaviour on unknown users Spelic
2010-11-29 18:22 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-11-29 18:38   ` Spelic
2010-11-29 19:01     ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-11-29 19:09       ` Trond Myklebust
2010-11-30 15:36         ` Steve Dickson
2010-11-30 22:19           ` Trond Myklebust
2010-11-30 22:26             ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-11-30 22:33               ` Trond Myklebust
2010-11-30 22:36                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-11-30 22:47                   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-01  2:57                   ` Neil Brown
2010-12-01  3:10                     ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-01  3:23                       ` Neil Brown
2010-12-01 16:29                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-12-02 23:10                         ` Thomas Haynes
2010-12-02 23:18                           ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-02 23:28                             ` Spencer Shepler
2010-12-08  0:15                               ` 'J. Bruce Fields'
2010-12-10 19:00                                 ` Thomas Haynes
2010-12-10 19:17                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-11-29 22:09   ` Daniel.Muntz
2010-11-29 22:57     ` Spencer Shepler
2010-11-29 23:16       ` Trond Myklebust
2010-11-29 23:25         ` Spencer Shepler
2010-11-29 23:26         ` Trond Myklebust
2010-11-29 23:30           ` Spencer Shepler
2010-11-29 23:40             ` Trond Myklebust
2010-11-30  0:02               ` Spencer Shepler
2010-11-30 11:44                 ` Spelic
2010-11-30 13:04                   ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2010-11-30 15:48                     ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-11-29 23:34       ` Daniel.Muntz
2010-11-29 23:36         ` Spencer Shepler
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-11-29 17:32 Spelic
2010-11-29 19:50 ` Simon Kirby
2010-11-29 22:47   ` Spelic
2010-11-30 15:20     ` Chuck Lever

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