From: Harshula <harshula@redhat.com>
To: Peter Staubach <pstaubach@exagrid.com>
Cc: Steve Dickson <SteveD@redhat.com>,
Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>,
Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>, Olaf Kirch <okir@suse.de>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] nfs-utils: Add a warning to the nfs manpage regarding using NFS over UDP on high-speed links
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 08:16:36 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1336601796.21032.20.camel@serendib> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FA8A9A935BFD3A4D8F0CDA1C4F611BCC064E7E5C8F@IT-1874.Isys.com>
Hi Peter!
On Wed, 2012-05-09 at 14:38 -0400, Peter Staubach wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I thought that we had previously discussed whether or not to include
> this sort of text and had come to the conclusion to not include it
> because the problem is not new or unique to NFS. It is a general
> networking issue. Am I remembering incorrectly?
This was from the most recent discussion:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.nfs/47349
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.nfs/47350
cya,
#
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Harshula Jayasuriya
> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:59 PM
> To: Steve Dickson
> Cc: Jeff Layton; Linux NFS Mailing List; Chuck Lever; Olaf Kirch
> Subject: [PATCH] nfs-utils: Add a warning to the nfs manpage regarding using NFS over UDP on high-speed links
>
> * Using NFS over UDP on high-speed links such as Gigabit can cause
> silent data corruption.
> * The man page text was written by Olaf Kirch and committed to (but not
> upstream):
> https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=warn-nfs-udp.patch&package=nfs-utils&project=openSUSE%3AFactory&rev=8e3e60c70e8270cd4afa036e13f6b2bb
>
> Signed-off-by: Harshula Jayasuriya <harshula@redhat.com>
> Acked-by: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
> Signed-off-by: Olaf Kirch <okir@suse.com>
> ---
> utils/mount/nfs.man | 81 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 1 files changed, 81 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/utils/mount/nfs.man b/utils/mount/nfs.man index 0d20cf0..87e27e1 100644
> --- a/utils/mount/nfs.man
> +++ b/utils/mount/nfs.man
> @@ -500,6 +500,8 @@ Specifying a netid that uses TCP forces all traffic from the command and the NFS client to use TCP.
> Specifying a netid that uses UDP forces all traffic types to use UDP.
> .IP
> +.B Before using NFS over UDP, refer to the TRANSPORT METHODS section.
> +.IP
> If the
> .B proto
> mount option is not specified, the
> @@ -514,6 +516,8 @@ The
> option is an alternative to specifying
> .BR proto=udp.
> It is included for compatibility with other operating systems.
> +.IP
> +.B Before using NFS over UDP, refer to the TRANSPORT METHODS section.
> .TP 1.5i
> .B tcp
> The
> @@ -1070,6 +1074,83 @@ or
> options are specified more than once on the same mount command line, then the value of the rightmost instance of each of these options takes effect.
> +.SS "Using NFS over UDP on high-speed links"
> +Using NFS over UDP on high-speed links such as Gigabit .BR "can cause
> +silent data corruption" .
> +.P
> +The problem can be triggered at high loads, and is caused by problems
> +in IP fragment reassembly. NFS read and writes typically transmit UDP
> +packets of 4 Kilobytes or more, which have to be broken up into several
> +fragments in order to be sent over the Ethernet link, which limits
> +packets to 1500 bytes by default. This process happens at the IP
> +network layer and is called fragmentation.
> +.P
> +In order to identify fragments that belong together, IP assigns a 16bit
> +.I IP ID value to each packet; fragments generated from the same UDP
> +packet will have the same IP ID. The receiving system will collect
> +these fragments and combine them to form the original UDP packet. This
> +process is called reassembly. The default timeout for packet reassembly
> +is
> +30 seconds; if the network stack does not receive all fragments of a
> +given packet within this interval, it assumes the missing fragment(s)
> +got lost and discards those it already received.
> +.P
> +The problem this creates over high-speed links is that it is possible
> +to send more than 65536 packets within 30 seconds. In fact, with heavy
> +NFS traffic one can observe that the IP IDs repeat after about
> +5 seconds.
> +.P
> +This has serious effects on reassembly: if one fragment gets lost,
> +another fragment .I from a different packet but with the .I same IP ID
> +will arrive within the 30 second timeout, and the network stack will
> +combine these fragments to form a new packet. Most of the time, network
> +layers above IP will detect this mismatched reassembly - in the case of
> +UDP, the UDP checksum, which is a 16 bit checksum over the entire
> +packet payload, will usually not match, and UDP will discard the bad
> +packet.
> +.P
> +However, the UDP checksum is 16 bit only, so there is a chance of 1 in
> +65536 that it will match even if the packet payload is completely
> +random (which very often isn't the case). If that is the case, silent
> +data corruption will occur.
> +.P
> +This potential should be taken seriously, at least on Gigabit Ethernet.
> +Network speeds of 100Mbit/s should be considered less problematic,
> +because with most traffic patterns IP ID wrap around will take much
> +longer than 30 seconds.
> +.P
> +It is therefore strongly recommended to use .BR "NFS over TCP where
> +possible" , since TCP does not perform fragmentation.
> +.P
> +If you absolutely have to use NFS over UDP over Gigabit Ethernet, some
> +steps can be taken to mitigate the problem and reduce the probability
> +of corruption:
> +.TP +1.5i
> +.I Jumbo frames:
> +Many Gigabit network cards are capable of transmitting frames bigger
> +than the 1500 byte limit of traditional Ethernet, typically
> +9000 bytes. Using jumbo frames of 9000 bytes will allow you to run NFS
> +over UDP at a page size of 8K without fragmentation. Of course, this is
> +only feasible if all involved stations support jumbo frames.
> +.IP
> +To enable a machine to send jumbo frames on cards that support it, it
> +is sufficient to configure the interface for a MTU value of 9000.
> +.TP +1.5i
> +.I Lower reassembly timeout:
> +By lowering this timeout below the time it takes the IP ID counter to
> +wrap around, incorrect reassembly of fragments can be prevented as
> +well. To do so, simply write the new timeout value (in seconds) to the
> +file .BR /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ipfrag_time .
> +.IP
> +A value of 2 seconds will greatly reduce the probability of IPID
> +clashes on a single Gigabit link, while still allowing for a reasonable
> +timeout when receiving fragmented traffic from distant peers.
> .SH "DATA AND METADATA COHERENCE"
> Some modern cluster file systems provide perfect cache coherence among their clients.
> --
> 1.7.7.6
>
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-09 22:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-02-28 5:22 "Using NFS over UDP on high-speed links such as Gigabit can cause silent data corruption." Harshula
2012-02-28 11:52 ` Jeff Layton
2012-02-28 12:32 ` Harshula
2012-02-28 12:41 ` Jeff Layton
2012-03-05 1:56 ` Harshula
2012-02-28 12:46 ` Jim Rees
2012-02-28 12:57 ` Jeff Layton
2012-02-28 14:35 ` Chuck Lever
2012-02-28 15:09 ` Jim Rees
2012-02-28 15:50 ` Chuck Lever
2012-03-05 2:17 ` Harshula
2012-03-05 15:08 ` Chuck Lever
2012-05-09 0:59 ` [PATCH] nfs-utils: Add a warning to the nfs manpage regarding using NFS over UDP on high-speed links Harshula Jayasuriya
2012-05-09 18:14 ` Steve Dickson
2012-05-09 18:38 ` Peter Staubach
2012-05-09 22:16 ` Harshula [this message]
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