From: "Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
To: "Matt W. Benjamin" <matt@linuxbox.com>
Cc: linux-nfs <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
Christoph Anton Mitterer <calestyo@scientia.net>
Subject: Re: XATTRs in NFS?
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 15:08:19 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1382627297.6430.0.camel@leira.trondhjem.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <658674512.46.1382627110304.JavaMail.root@thunderbeast.private.linuxbox.com>
On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 11:05 -0400, Matt W. Benjamin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Presumably Linux client and server implementations would restrict use of "system."
> Perhaps would be more to talk about, if xattrs were implemented experimentally.
>
> I'm interested in knowing about patches that might be floating around for the Linux client, for NFSv4.x. (I've seen NFSv3 work.)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt
We've already talked about this, Matt. The answer is still NO.
Trond
> ----- "Trond Myklebust" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 24, 2013, at 3:13 PM, Christoph Anton Mitterer
> > <calestyo@scientia.net> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 08:45 +0000, Myklebust, Trond wrote:
> > >> labeled NFS (i.e. security labels for NFS) is already supported in
> > Linux 3.10 and newer.
> > > Sure, but that doesn't really help me.
> > >
> > >
> > >> There are no plans to merge general purpose xattrs.
> > > Why not? Is it a big deal?
> > >
> >
> > Linux xattrs are a rabid mess.
> >
> > The whole "system" namespace is something that cannot and should not
> > ever be exposed on a network.
> > The "trusted" and "user" namespaces just offer specialised storage.
> > Why are they needed?
> >
> > >
> > >> Please just use an application-specific database.
> > > Well that won't work,... since that wouldn't be updated if e.g.
> > > pathnames are changed by any program (cp, mv)
> >
> > If the data needs to follow the file, then store it in the file. Why
> > do you need the filesystem to manage that for you?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Trond--
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>
--
Trond Myklebust
Linux NFS client maintainer
NetApp
Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com
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[not found] <155020130.44.1382627021008.JavaMail.root@thunderbeast.private.linuxbox.com>
2013-10-24 15:05 ` XATTRs in NFS? Matt W. Benjamin
2013-10-24 15:08 ` Myklebust, Trond [this message]
2013-10-24 15:10 ` Matt W. Benjamin
[not found] <432349691.14.1382795633967.JavaMail.root@thunderbeast.private.linuxbox.com>
2013-10-26 14:01 ` Matt W. Benjamin
2013-10-27 12:31 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-27 16:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-10-27 17:50 ` Simo Sorce
2013-10-27 18:07 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-27 18:30 ` Simo Sorce
2013-10-27 18:41 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-27 22:20 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-28 0:32 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-28 9:53 ` Hellwig Christoph
2013-10-27 21:22 ` Matt W. Benjamin
[not found] <739187808.295.1382744200733.JavaMail.root@thunderbeast.private.linuxbox.com>
2013-10-25 23:52 ` Matt W. Benjamin
2013-10-26 5:18 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-10-26 11:36 ` Matt W. Benjamin
2013-10-23 20:37 Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-24 8:45 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-24 14:13 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-24 14:32 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-24 15:07 ` Simo Sorce
2013-10-24 15:11 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-24 15:16 ` Simo Sorce
2013-10-24 15:23 ` Jeff Layton
2013-10-24 15:29 ` Matt W. Benjamin
2013-10-24 15:53 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-24 16:10 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-24 15:27 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-24 16:01 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-24 16:30 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-24 17:22 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-25 14:08 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-10-25 15:26 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-10-25 15:32 ` Chuck Lever
2013-10-26 18:00 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-26 13:20 ` Myklebust, Trond
[not found] ` <OF01D9818B.36018C0F-ON88257C10.00608BC0-88257C10.006139C6@LocalDomain>
2013-10-26 17:46 ` Marc Eshel
2013-10-27 12:48 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-28 0:14 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-28 0:19 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-28 0:23 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-28 13:25 ` James Morris
2013-10-28 15:41 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-10-26 17:12 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-27 19:15 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-10-27 21:57 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-28 0:17 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-28 0:27 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-28 0:44 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-28 1:04 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-28 15:40 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-10-28 16:15 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-28 17:49 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-28 18:00 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-10-28 18:08 ` Dr Fields James Bruce
2013-10-28 18:31 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-10-28 20:44 ` Marc Eshel
2013-10-28 20:55 ` [nfsv4] " Haynes, Tom
2013-10-28 21:02 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-10-28 21:04 ` Chuck Lever
2013-10-28 21:28 ` Marc Eshel
[not found] ` <526EC3F7.3090601@gmail.com>
2013-10-29 0:22 ` Fwd: " Anand Avati
2013-10-29 0:39 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-29 0:53 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-29 1:04 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-29 0:49 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-29 1:00 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-10-29 1:26 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-29 1:24 ` Anand Avati
2013-10-29 1:52 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-29 2:22 ` Anand Avati
2013-10-29 1:39 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2013-10-29 2:28 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-10-29 4:27 ` Marc Eshel
2013-10-28 21:34 ` Matt W. Benjamin
2013-10-28 18:15 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
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