From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>
To: Simo Sorce <simo@redhat.com>
Cc: Chris Perl <cperl@janestreet.com>,
Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
Chris Perl <chris.perl@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: File Read Returns Non-existent Null Bytes
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 10:34:31 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1424964871.10136.6.camel@primarydata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1424964150.13431.57.camel@willson.usersys.redhat.com>
On Thu, 2015-02-26 at 10:22 -0500, Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-02-26 at 09:10 -0500, Chris Perl wrote:
> > > However if you are asking us for an extensive list of "this is what I
> > > can expect if I ignore these rules", then I don't think you will find
> > > much traction. Such a list would be committing us to defining a model
> > > for "non-close-to-open" semantics, which isn't of interest to me at
> > > least, and I doubt anyone else is interested in committing to
> > > maintaining that.
> >
> > One more point on this. I wasn't really asking for a list of what I
> > can expect if I ignore the rules (although I think pointing out that
> > reading corrupt data from the cache is worth mentioning), I was asking
> > what the rules for close-to-open consistency were so I can follow
> > them. I now know one of them is that if a file is open for writing on
> > one client then it can't be read on another. Are there others?
>
> Is this a rule or a bug ?
> How does an application know that the file is open elsewhere for
> writing ?
It is up to you to ensure that you don't set up such a situation, just
like it is also your responsibility to ensure that you don't run 2
applications that do read-modify-writes to the same file on a regular
POSIX filesystem.
This is a rule that has worked just fine for the NFS community for more
than 30 years. It isn't anything new that we're only adding to Linux.
--
Trond Myklebust
Linux NFS client maintainer, PrimaryData
trond.myklebust@primarydata.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-02-26 15:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-02-23 20:56 File Read Returns Non-existent Null Bytes Chris Perl
2015-02-23 22:34 ` Trond Myklebust
2015-02-25 17:04 ` Chris Perl
2015-02-25 17:37 ` Trond Myklebust
2015-02-25 21:02 ` Chris Perl
2015-02-25 21:47 ` Trond Myklebust
2015-02-25 21:53 ` Chris Perl
2015-02-25 22:15 ` Trond Myklebust
2015-02-26 12:41 ` Chris Perl
2015-02-26 13:29 ` Trond Myklebust
2015-02-26 13:42 ` Chris Perl
2015-02-26 14:10 ` Chris Perl
2015-02-26 15:22 ` Simo Sorce
2015-02-26 15:34 ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2015-02-26 15:36 ` Simo Sorce
2015-02-26 15:45 ` Chris Perl
2015-02-26 15:56 ` Simo Sorce
2015-02-27 1:48 ` Harshula
2015-02-27 13:17 ` Chris Perl
2015-02-26 16:00 ` Chris Perl
2015-02-26 23:43 ` Trond Myklebust
2015-02-26 15:37 ` Trond Myklebust
2015-02-27 22:40 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-02-27 23:33 ` Chuck Lever
2015-03-02 15:19 ` Chris Perl
2015-03-02 15:57 ` Chuck Lever
2015-03-02 20:58 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-02 21:15 ` Chuck Lever
2015-03-03 13:29 ` Chris Perl
2015-03-03 15:30 ` Chuck Lever
2015-03-03 17:44 ` Trond Myklebust
2015-03-03 19:57 ` Chuck Lever
2015-03-02 21:33 ` didier
2015-03-03 9:09 ` Boaz Harrosh
[not found] ` <CAHHaOubVomDJ5uePb7DFGizZ0TBsyC-tJN5p6-RWOYKQC2oxvA@mail.gmail.com>
2015-02-27 20:13 ` Chris Perl
2015-02-25 22:32 ` Chuck Lever
2015-02-26 0:37 ` Trond Myklebust
2015-02-26 0:43 ` Trond Myklebust
2015-02-26 1:27 ` Trond Myklebust
2015-02-26 15:08 ` Chuck Lever
2015-02-26 16:26 ` fsx size error (was: File Read Returns Non-existent Null Bytes) Chuck Lever
2015-02-26 17:27 ` Trond Myklebust
2015-02-26 19:00 ` Chuck Lever
2015-02-26 23:06 ` Trond Myklebust
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