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From: Simo <simo@samba.org>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Andreas Gruenbacher <agruenba@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	Anna Schumaker <anna.schumaker@netapp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v18 00/22] Richacls (Core and Ext4)
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 16:12:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1457817147.3540.28.camel@samba.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160311140757.GB13178@fieldses.org>

On Fri, 2016-03-11 at 09:07 -0500, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 06:01:34AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 09:17:05AM +0100, Andreas Gruenbacher
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > Al,
> > > 
> > > could you please make sure you are happy with the current version
> > > of the
> > > richacl patch queue for the next merge window?
> > I'm still not happy.
> > 
> > For one I still see no reason to merge this broken ACL model at
> > all.
> > It provides our actualy Linux users no benefit at all, while
> > breaking
> > a lot of assumptions, especially by adding allow and deny ACE at
> > the
> > same sime.
> Could you explain what you mean by "adding allow and deny ACE at the
> same time"?
> 
> > 
> > It also doesn't help with the issue that the main thing it's trying
> > to be compatible with (Windows) actually uses a fundamentally
> > different
> > identifier to apply the ACLs to - as long as you're still limited
> > to users and groups and not guids we'll still have that mapping
> > problem
> > anyway.
> Agreed, but, one step at a time?  My impression is that the Samba
> people
> still consider this a step forward for Linux compatibility.

It is a step forward, but being able to store SIDs in the ACL, would be
a much better one.

Simo.

> --b.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > But besides that fundamental question on the purpose of it I also
> > don't think the code is suitable, more in the individual patches.
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-03-12 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-29  8:17 [PATCH v18 00/22] Richacls (Core and Ext4) Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-02-29  8:17 ` [PATCH v18 01/22] vfs: Add IS_ACL() and IS_RICHACL() tests Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-02-29  8:17 ` [PATCH v18 02/22] vfs: Add MAY_CREATE_FILE and MAY_CREATE_DIR permission flags Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-02-29  8:17 ` [PATCH v18 03/22] vfs: Add MAY_DELETE_SELF and MAY_DELETE_CHILD " Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-02-29  8:17 ` [PATCH v18 04/22] vfs: Make the inode passed to inode_change_ok non-const Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-02-29  8:17 ` [PATCH v18 05/22] vfs: Add permission flags for setting file attributes Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-02-29  8:17 ` [PATCH v18 06/22] richacl: In-memory representation and helper functions Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-02-29  8:17 ` [PATCH v18 07/22] richacl: Permission mapping functions Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-02-29  8:17 ` [PATCH v18 08/22] richacl: Compute maximum file masks from an acl Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-02-29  8:17 ` [PATCH v18 09/22] richacl: Permission check algorithm Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-03-11 14:09   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-29  8:17 ` [PATCH v18 10/22] posix_acl: Unexport acl_by_type and make it static Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-03-11 14:03   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-29  8:17 ` [PATCH v18 11/22] vfs: Cache base_acl objects in inodes Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-03-11 14:07   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-11 16:24     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-03-15  7:12       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-16 22:31         ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-02-29  8:17 ` [PATCH v18 12/22] vfs: Add get_richacl and set_richacl inode operations Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-02-29  8:17 ` [PATCH v18 13/22] vfs: Cache richacl in struct inode Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-02-29  8:17 ` [PATCH v18 14/22] richacl: Update the file masks in chmod() Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-02-29  8:17 ` [PATCH v18 15/22] richacl: Check if an acl is equivalent to a file mode Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-02-29  8:17 ` [PATCH v18 16/22] richacl: Create-time inheritance Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-02-29  8:17 ` [PATCH v18 17/22] richacl: Automatic Inheritance Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-02-29  8:17 ` [PATCH v18 18/22] richacl: xattr mapping functions Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-03-11 14:17   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-11 17:03     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-02-29  8:17 ` [PATCH v18 19/22] richacl: Add richacl xattr handler Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-03-11 14:17   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-11 14:19     ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-03-15  7:10       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-15 21:05         ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-03-21 16:09           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-29  8:17 ` [PATCH v18 20/22] vfs: Add richacl permission checking Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-02-29  8:17 ` [PATCH v18 21/22] ext4: Add richacl support Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-03-11 14:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-13 23:08     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-03-15  7:17       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-16 22:38         ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-03-13 23:49     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-03-14 13:02     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-03-15  7:18       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-02-29  8:17 ` [PATCH v18 22/22] ext4: Add richacl feature flag Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-03-11 14:01 ` [PATCH v18 00/22] Richacls (Core and Ext4) Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-11 14:07   ` J. Bruce Fields
2016-03-12 21:12     ` Simo [this message]
2016-03-15  7:09     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-11 16:11   ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-03-11 20:05     ` Steve French
2016-03-11 23:02       ` Jeremy Allison
2016-03-13 23:02         ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2016-03-14  3:54           ` Jeremy Allison
2016-03-15  7:14       ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-16  3:40         ` Steve French
2016-03-15  7:11     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-15 15:45       ` Jeremy Allison
2016-03-15 20:17         ` Volker Lendecke
2016-03-16  3:28           ` Steve French
2016-03-21 18:20           ` Michael Adam

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