From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: bfields@redhat.com, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nfsd: special case truncates some more
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 11:14:05 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1485188045.2786.13.camel@poochiereds.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170123160559.GA786@lst.de>
On Mon, 2017-01-23 at 17:05 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 10:52:09AM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > To be clear, the client is requesting to set the mtime to current server
> > time and not to a specific mtime, right?
>
> Yes. And I think it's mostly the Linux client being lazy - ATTR_MTIME
> is what it gets from the VFS for a truncate operation (but not ftrunate,
> so we probably won't see it on the wire in that case, but I need to verify
> that first). Yet another reason for ->truncate :)
>
Heh, ok. Makes sense.
> > I don't see where vfs_truncate will handle the times though. do_truncate
> > will, but you have to pass in a non-zero time_attrs and vfs_truncate
> > always sets that to 0.
>
> This is the magic of the Linux VFS interface. For a ATTR_SIZE operation
> the file system is expected to update mtime and ctime if the size changes
> even if ATTR_MTIME and ATTR_CTIME are not set. See the comments
> in xfs_vn_setattr_size, which I wrote many years ago when I tripped
> over this interesting calling convention.
>
Ick.
> > If we did want to do this, it seems like it might be better to just add
> > a new time_attrs arg to vfs_truncate that gets passed to do_truncate.
> > Most callers would set it to zero, but nfsd could set it to:
> >
> > iap->ia_valid & (ATTR_MTIME|ATTR_CTIME)
> >
> > Would that work?
>
> I'd hate it. I'd rather spent my time on a real truncate operation
> which makes all the above magic explicit, and as a side effect would
> fix the Linux client sending spurious mtime update requests that
> the procotol already requires to be done implicitly.
Fair enough. In that case, I wouldn't try to optimize away the second
notify_change if the client sets ATTR_MTIME/ATTR_CTIME for now
We might have to dip down into the fs twice for a truncate, but so be
it. If it becomes a problem then we can consider that more reason to add
a real ->truncate operation.
--
Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-01-23 16:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-01-22 16:54 setattr ATTR_SIZE vs the rest Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-22 16:54 ` [PATCH] nfsd: special case truncates some more Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-23 12:21 ` Jeff Layton
2017-01-23 12:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-23 15:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-23 15:52 ` Jeff Layton
2017-01-23 16:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-01-23 16:14 ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2017-01-23 16:20 ` Trond Myklebust
2017-01-23 16:26 ` hch
2017-01-23 17:25 ` Trond Myklebust
2017-01-23 17:38 ` hch
2017-01-23 17:42 ` Trond Myklebust
2017-01-24 16:25 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-01-24 22:02 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-01-23 16:58 ` setattr ATTR_SIZE vs the rest J. Bruce Fields
2017-01-24 7:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-02-20 6:21 split setattr operations take 2 Christoph Hellwig
2017-02-20 6:21 ` [PATCH] nfsd: special case truncates some more Christoph Hellwig
2017-02-20 22:23 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-21 15:07 ` Chuck Lever
2017-02-21 15:14 ` J. Bruce Fields
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