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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
To: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>,
	Anna Schumaker <schumaker.anna@gmail.com>,
	Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>,
	jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] nfs/nfsd/sunrpc: enforce NFSv4 transport requirements
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 13:53:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1487962413.3314.6.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E56294C8-2F67-4279-A266-3C1E3B18F80C@oracle.com>

On Fri, 2017-02-24 at 10:38 -0800, Chuck Lever wrote:
> > On Feb 24, 2017, at 10:25 AM, Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com> wrote:
> > 
> > v2: comment clarifications, and commit log cleanup. No functional changes.
> > 
> > RFC5661 says:
> > 
> >   NFSv4.1 works over Remote Direct Memory Access (RDMA) and non-RDMA-
> >   based transports with the following attributes:
> > 
> > 
> >   o  The transport supports reliable delivery of data, which NFSv4.1
> >      requires but neither NFSv4.1 nor RPC has facilities for ensuring
> >      [34].
> > 
> >   o  The transport delivers data in the order it was sent.  Ordered
> >      delivery simplifies detection of transmit errors, and simplifies
> >      the sending of arbitrary sized requests and responses via the
> >      record marking protocol [3].
> > 
> > ...and then some hand-wavy stuff about congestion control. RFC7530
> > doesn't mention needing reliable and ordered delivery, but it does need
> > congestion control.
> > 
> > In practical terms, that means we should be excluding NFSv4 from UDP
> > transports. The NFS server has never enforced this requirement,
> > however, so a user could issue NFSv4 calls against the server via UDP.
> 
> RPC-over-RDMA Version One requires the use of RDMA Reliable
> Connections, which is a layer above the link layer that
> provides reliable, in-order delivery using connection
> semantics. This meets all stated transport requirements in
> RFC 5661.
> 
> The language of RFC 5661 says that UDP by itself must not be
> used for NFSv4. IMO the use of Reliable Connections with
> RPC-over-RDMA makes this a non-issue for NFSv4, even for RoCE
> v2.
> 
> rfc5667bis-06 was submitted this morning to address this.
> 

Thanks, I may plagiarize you and update the comment in rdma_create_xprt
if that's ok:

+       /*
+        * RPC-over-RDMA Version One requires the use of RDMA Reliable
+        * Connections, which is a layer above the link layer that provides
+        * reliable, in-order delivery using connection semantics.
+        */

I won't bother to re-post just for that though.

> > This patchset adds a small bit of infrastructure to the sunrpc layer to
> > enforce this requirement, and has the nfs and nfsd layers set the
> > appropriate flags for it on their server-side transports. It also has
> > the rpcbind client skip registering the protocol version on a UDP port
> > when that flag is set.
> > 
> > Lightly tested by hand, but it's fairly straightforward.
> > 
> > Jeff Layton (4):
> >  sunrpc: turn bitfield flags in svc_version into bools
> >  sunrpc: flag transports as having both reliable and ordered delivery,
> >    and congestion control
> >  nfs/nfsd/sunrpc: enforce transport requirements for NFSv4
> >  sunrpc: don't register UDP port with rpcbind when version needs
> >    congestion control
> > 
> > fs/nfs/callback_xdr.c                    |  6 ++++--
> > fs/nfsd/nfs2acl.c                        |  1 -
> > fs/nfsd/nfs3acl.c                        |  1 -
> > fs/nfsd/nfs4proc.c                       | 13 +++++++------
> > include/linux/sunrpc/svc.h               | 12 ++++++++----
> > include/linux/sunrpc/svc_xprt.h          |  1 +
> > net/sunrpc/svc.c                         | 23 ++++++++++++++++++++++-
> > net/sunrpc/svcsock.c                     |  1 +
> > net/sunrpc/xprtrdma/svc_rdma_transport.c |  8 ++++++++
> > 9 files changed, 51 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)
> > 
> > -- 
> > 2.9.3
> > 
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> 
> --
> Chuck Lever
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-24 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-23 17:03 [PATCH 0/4] nfs/nfsd/sunrpc: enforce requirement for congestion control protocols in NFSv4 Jeff Layton
2017-02-23 17:03 ` [PATCH 1/4] sunrpc: flag transports as using IETF approved congestion control protocols Jeff Layton
2017-02-23 19:42   ` Tom Talpey
2017-02-23 20:00     ` Jeff Layton
2017-02-23 20:06       ` Tom Talpey
2017-02-23 20:11         ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-23 20:26           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-23 20:33             ` Tom Talpey
2017-02-23 20:55               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-24 15:08                 ` Tom Talpey
2017-02-24 17:17                   ` Jeff Layton
2017-02-24 18:03                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2017-02-23 20:32           ` Jeff Layton
2017-02-23 20:17         ` Chuck Lever
2017-02-23 20:15     ` Chuck Lever
2017-02-23 17:03 ` [PATCH 2/4] sunrpc: turn bitfield flags in svc_version into bools Jeff Layton
2017-02-23 17:03 ` [PATCH 3/4] nfs/nfsd/sunrpc: enforce congestion control protocol requirement for NFSv4 Jeff Layton
2017-02-23 17:03 ` [PATCH 4/4] sunrpc: don't register UDP port with rpcbind when version needs congestion control Jeff Layton
2017-02-23 17:17 ` [PATCH 0/4] nfs/nfsd/sunrpc: enforce requirement for congestion control protocols in NFSv4 Jeff Layton
2017-02-24 18:25 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] nfs/nfsd/sunrpc: enforce NFSv4 transport requirements Jeff Layton
2017-02-24 18:25   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] sunrpc: turn bitfield flags in svc_version into bools Jeff Layton
2017-02-24 18:25   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] sunrpc: flag transports as having both reliable and ordered delivery, and congestion control Jeff Layton
2017-02-24 18:25   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] nfs/nfsd/sunrpc: enforce transport requirements for NFSv4 Jeff Layton
2017-02-24 18:25   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] sunrpc: don't register UDP port with rpcbind when version needs congestion control Jeff Layton
2017-02-24 18:38   ` [PATCH v2 0/4] nfs/nfsd/sunrpc: enforce NFSv4 transport requirements Chuck Lever
2017-02-24 18:53     ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2017-02-24 21:23       ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-24 18:53   ` Tom Talpey
2017-02-24 21:22     ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-24 21:25   ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-24 21:34     ` Jeff Layton
2017-02-24 21:44       ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-02-27 11:59         ` Jeff Layton
2017-02-27 12:08           ` Tom Talpey
2017-02-27 12:55             ` Jeff Layton
2017-02-27 14:20               ` J. Bruce Fields

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