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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
To: Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@umich.edu>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@redhat.com>,
	Olga Kornievskaia <kolga@netapp.com>,
	linux-nfs <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 08/10] NFSD handle OFFLOAD_CANCEL op
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 06:56:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1507805813.5310.27.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN-5tyEfNFx-=JDY9rLGOVxFqwVps754grB6RQd3=c_CrqynPw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 2017-10-11 at 12:08 -0400, Olga Kornievskaia wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 11:19 AM, J. Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 11:02:56AM -0400, Olga Kornievskaia wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 10:07 AM, J. Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 05:14:29PM -0400, Olga Kornievskaia wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 11:58 AM, J. Bruce Fields <bfields@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 10:53:13AM -0400, Olga Kornievskaia wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 2:38 PM, J. Bruce Fields <bfields@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 01:29:43PM -0400, Olga Kornievskaia wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Upon receiving OFFLOAD_CANCEL search the list of copy stateids,
> > > > > > > > > if found mark it cancelled. If copy has more interations to
> > > > > > > > > call vfs_copy_file_range, it'll stop it. Server won't be sending
> > > > > > > > > CB_OFFLOAD to the client since it received a cancel.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Olga Kornievskaia <kolga@netapp.com>
> > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > >  fs/nfsd/nfs4proc.c  | 26 ++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> > > > > > > > >  fs/nfsd/nfs4state.c | 16 ++++++++++++++++
> > > > > > > > >  fs/nfsd/state.h     |  4 ++++
> > > > > > > > >  3 files changed, 44 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > diff --git a/fs/nfsd/nfs4proc.c b/fs/nfsd/nfs4proc.c
> > > > > > > > > index 3cddebb..f4f3d93 100644
> > > > > > > > > --- a/fs/nfsd/nfs4proc.c
> > > > > > > > > +++ b/fs/nfsd/nfs4proc.c
> > > > > > > > > @@ -1139,6 +1139,7 @@ static int _nfsd_copy_file_range(struct nfsd4_copy *copy)
> > > > > > > > >       size_t bytes_to_copy;
> > > > > > > > >       u64 src_pos = copy->cp_src_pos;
> > > > > > > > >       u64 dst_pos = copy->cp_dst_pos;
> > > > > > > > > +     bool cancelled = false;
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >       do {
> > > > > > > > >               bytes_to_copy = min_t(u64, bytes_total, MAX_RW_COUNT);
> > > > > > > > > @@ -1150,7 +1151,12 @@ static int _nfsd_copy_file_range(struct nfsd4_copy *copy)
> > > > > > > > >               copy->cp_res.wr_bytes_written += bytes_copied;
> > > > > > > > >               src_pos += bytes_copied;
> > > > > > > > >               dst_pos += bytes_copied;
> > > > > > > > > -     } while (bytes_total > 0 && !copy->cp_synchronous);
> > > > > > > > > +             if (!copy->cp_synchronous) {
> > > > > > > > > +                     spin_lock(&copy->cps->cp_lock);
> > > > > > > > > +                     cancelled = copy->cps->cp_cancelled;
> > > > > > > > > +                     spin_unlock(&copy->cps->cp_lock);
> > > > > > > > > +             }
> > > > > > > > > +     } while (bytes_total > 0 && !copy->cp_synchronous && !cancelled);
> > > > > > > > >       return bytes_copied;
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I'd rather we sent a signal, and then we won't need this
> > > > > > > > logic--vfs_copy_range() will just return EINTR or something.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hi Bruce,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Now that I've implemented using the kthread instead of the workqueue,
> > > > > > > I don't see that it can provide any better  guarantee than the work
> > > > > > > queue. vfs_copy_range() is not interrupted in the middle and returning
> > > > > > > the EINTR. The function that runs the kthread, it has to at some point
> > > > > > > call signalled()/kthread_should_stop() function to see if it was
> > > > > > > signaled and use it to 'stop working instead of continuing on'.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > If I were to remove the loop and check (if signaled() ||
> > > > > > > kthread_should_stop()) before and after calling the
> > > > > > > vfs_copy_file_range(), the copy will either not start if the
> > > > > > > OFFLOAD_CANCEL was received before copy started or the whole copy
> > > > > > > would happen.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Even with the loop, I'd be checking after every call for
> > > > > > > vfs_copy_file_range() just like it was in the current version with the
> > > > > > > workqueue.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Please advise if you still want the kthread-based implementation or
> > > > > > > keep the workqueue.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That's interesting.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > To me that sounds like a bug somewhere under vfs_copy_file_range().
> > > > > > splice_direct_to_actor() can do long-running copies, so it should be
> > > > > > interruptible, shouldn't it?
> > > > > 
> > > > > So I found it. Yes do_splice_direct() will react to somebody sending a
> > > > > ctrl-c and will stop. It calls signal_pendning(). However, in our
> > > > > case, I'm calling kthread_stop() and that sets a different flag and
> > > > > one needs to also check for kthread_should_stop() as a stopping
> > > > > condition. splice.c lacks that.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I hope they can agree that it's a bug. I don't have any luck with VFS...
> > > > 
> > > > Argh.  No, it's probably not their bug, I guess kthreads just ignore
> > > > signals.  OK, I can't immediately see what the right thing to do is
> > > > here....
> > > > 
> > > > I do think we need to do something as we want to be able to interrupt
> > > > and clean up copy threads when we can.
> > > 
> > > A bug is not the right word. It would be asking them to accommodate
> > > stopping to include kthread_stop condition. Why do you say kthreads
> > > ignore signals? You can say that kthread_stop doesn't send a signal.
> > 
> > I think both are true.
> > 
> > I doubt it's reasonable to add kthread_should_stop everywhere that
> > there are currently checks for signals.
> > 
> > > Also another note, I still can't remove the loop around the call to
> > > the vfs_copy_file_range() because it's not guaranteed to copy all the
> > > bytes that the call asks for. The implementation of
> > > vfs_copy_file_range will do_splice_direct only MAX_RW_COUNT at a time.
> > > So the upper layer needs to loop to make sure it copies all the bytes.
> > 
> > MAX_RW_COUNT is about 4 gigs.  I'm not sure if it's really a problem to
> > copy only 4 gigs at a time?  But, yes, maybe the loop is still worth it.
> > 
> > > If VFS will decide to reject the request to add kthread_should_stop to
> > > their conditions, then the loop could be a way to stop every 4MB.
> > > Copying 4MB would be the equivalent of what the current synchronous
> > > copy does now anyway?
> > 
> > I'm still a little worried about copy threads hanging indefinitely if
> > the peer goes away mid-copy.  The ability to signal the copy thread
> > would help.
> 
> So I don't know if this is ok or not but I can directly set the
> SIGPENDING bit in the copy task structure from the OFFLOAD_CANCEL
> thread and that stops the splice copy too.

Sorry I'm a bit late here...

The main reason (IMO) to use your own thread here is to avoid squatting
on top of workqueue threads for too long. Workqueue threads are shared
by all workqueues in the system, so when you use one to run your long-
running in-kernel copy task, you're potentially depriving other (quite
possibly more immediate) work from getting done. Spawning a thread in
the context of copy offload seems like negligible overhead and is
"nicer" to the rest of the system.

There's also the problem of how to interrupt a long-running copy. Early
on, kthreadd will ignore_signals(), so kthreads (including workqueue
threads) by default will always ignore them because they inherit that.

If you decide to use workqueues, you _must_ reinstate the signal handler
state for the thread when you're done. Otherwise you'll leave other work
receptive to signals (which may be problematic). There's also the
problem of figuring out which kthread to send a signal when you want to
interrupt it. Not trivial once you've handed it off to the workqueue.

So, I think a kthread is also just simpler here. When you spawn a
thread, you need to make it be receptive to signals to allow
vfs_copy_file_range to see them and stop what it's doing. It's your
choice whether to use that signal as a key to shut down (like nfsd does)
or whether you want to just use kthread_stop. nfsd() does this, so you
may be able to use it to guide you.

The simplest approach (IMO) is to just check signal_pending when the
copy returns, and cleanup/exit the thread when it returns true. You need
to be able to deal with signals anyway to interrupt a copy, so using the
kthread_stop mechanism doesn't really add anything there.

Hope this helps!
-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-12 10:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-28 17:29 [PATCH v4 00/10] NFSD support for asynchronous COPY Olga Kornievskaia
2017-09-28 17:29 ` [PATCH v4 01/10] NFSD CB_OFFLOAD xdr Olga Kornievskaia
2017-09-28 17:29 ` [PATCH v4 02/10] NFSD OFFLOAD_STATUS xdr Olga Kornievskaia
2017-09-28 19:34   ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-28 17:29 ` [PATCH v4 03/10] NFSD OFFLOAD_CANCEL xdr Olga Kornievskaia
2017-09-28 19:34   ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-28 19:40     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-09-28 19:44       ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-28 17:29 ` [PATCH v4 04/10] NFSD xdr callback stateid in async COPY reply Olga Kornievskaia
2017-09-28 17:29 ` [PATCH v4 05/10] NFSD first draft of async copy Olga Kornievskaia
2017-09-28 18:07   ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-28 18:44     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-09-28 18:55       ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]         ` <805B49AE-1DB0-4FB1-BEEB-84A7740E9B09@netapp.com>
2017-09-28 19:07           ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-28 19:11             ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-09-29 21:51     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-10-02 16:10       ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-28 18:16   ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-28 17:29 ` [PATCH v4 06/10] NFSD return nfs4_stid in nfs4_preprocess_stateid_op Olga Kornievskaia
2017-09-28 17:29 ` [PATCH v4 07/10] NFSD create new stateid for async copy Olga Kornievskaia
2017-09-28 19:12   ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-28 19:21     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-09-28 19:24       ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-09-28 17:29 ` [PATCH v4 08/10] NFSD handle OFFLOAD_CANCEL op Olga Kornievskaia
2017-09-28 18:38   ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-10-09 14:53     ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-10-09 15:58       ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-10-10 21:14         ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-10-11 14:07           ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-10-11 15:02             ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-10-11 15:19               ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-10-11 16:08                 ` Olga Kornievskaia
2017-10-12 10:56                   ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2017-09-28 17:29 ` [PATCH v4 09/10] NFSD support OFFLOAD_STATUS Olga Kornievskaia
2017-09-28 17:29 ` [PATCH v4 10/10] NFSD stop queued async copies on client shutdown Olga Kornievskaia
2017-09-28 19:21   ` J. Bruce Fields

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