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From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>
To: Myklebust Trond <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>
Cc: Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>,
	NFS list <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stable Tree <stable@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] pnfs: Proper delay for NFS4ERR_RECALLCONFLICT in layout_get_done
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:47:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <153DAED6-461B-43A4-A5B2-A79C8E893285@primarydata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42EE44E9-1051-4D22-A4B6-D7E70A59ED2D@primarydata.com>


On Jan 14, 2014, at 17:43, Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote:

> 
> On Jan 14, 2014, at 17:21, Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 01/14/2014 09:05 PM, Trond Myklebust wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2014-01-14 at 17:32 +0200, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> For the default mount option of 'timeo=600', and the default #define
>>> NFS4_POLL_RETRY_MIN==HZ/10, this means we can end up pounding the server
>>> with 600 LAYOUTGET requests within the space of 1 minute, before giving
>>> up. Is that reasonable?
>>> 
>> 
>> It will never get there it will always be 1 or two sends. Usually it is
>> just so the sequence of layout_get_done is out of the way and the
>> LAYOUT_RECALL sequence+1 can get through and the layout released. Then
>> the next time it will all be good and the LAYOUT_GET will succeed.
>> 
>> Worst case is when the client is very busy with queue full of IO
>> on the same busy layout that needs to be released by the recall. Personally
>> I found that this never exceeds 40 IOPs in flight. Note that this is not
>> the amount of total dirty memory but only the amount of already submitted
>> IO. I guess that on a very slow connection these can take time but in
>> regular line speeds I never observed more the 2 retries with this patch.
>> 
>> It is all up to the client. NFS4ERR_RECALLCONFLICT means "the layouts you
>> have need to be released" (I say released because the forgetful model does
>> not actually returns them). Can you see a critical time when layouts are
>> held for longer than a second ?
> 
> That will probably depend on the workload and possibly on the layout type.
> 
> My point was, however, about the potential for mischief due to the mismatch between the number of retries that the resulting code allows, and the fixed period between those retries of 1/10 seconds. Why not rather use something along the lines of "rpc_delay(rpc_task, min(giveup -jiffies , max(jiffies - lgp->args.timestamp, NFS4_POLL_RETRY_MIN)));”? That gives you an initially exponential back off with a minimum period of NFS4_POLL_RETRY_MIN, and with an expiry date of ‘timeo’ jiffies after the first attempt.

Whoops. That should probably be

max(NFS4_POLL_RETRY_MIN, min(giveup - jiffies , jiffies - lgp->args.timestamp))

so that the time interval is not < NFS4_POLL_RETRY_MIN.
--
Trond Myklebust
Linux NFS client maintainer


  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-14 22:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-14 15:32 [PATCH v2] pnfs: Proper delay for NFS4ERR_RECALLCONFLICT in layout_get_done Boaz Harrosh
2014-01-14 19:05 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-01-14 22:21   ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-01-14 22:43     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-01-14 22:47       ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2014-01-14 23:41         ` Boaz Harrosh

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