From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>
To: Myklebust Trond <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>
Cc: Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>,
NFS list <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
Stable Tree <stable@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] pnfs: Proper delay for NFS4ERR_RECALLCONFLICT in layout_get_done
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:47:50 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <153DAED6-461B-43A4-A5B2-A79C8E893285@primarydata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42EE44E9-1051-4D22-A4B6-D7E70A59ED2D@primarydata.com>
On Jan 14, 2014, at 17:43, Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote:
>
> On Jan 14, 2014, at 17:21, Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com> wrote:
>
>> On 01/14/2014 09:05 PM, Trond Myklebust wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2014-01-14 at 17:32 +0200, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> For the default mount option of 'timeo=600', and the default #define
>>> NFS4_POLL_RETRY_MIN==HZ/10, this means we can end up pounding the server
>>> with 600 LAYOUTGET requests within the space of 1 minute, before giving
>>> up. Is that reasonable?
>>>
>>
>> It will never get there it will always be 1 or two sends. Usually it is
>> just so the sequence of layout_get_done is out of the way and the
>> LAYOUT_RECALL sequence+1 can get through and the layout released. Then
>> the next time it will all be good and the LAYOUT_GET will succeed.
>>
>> Worst case is when the client is very busy with queue full of IO
>> on the same busy layout that needs to be released by the recall. Personally
>> I found that this never exceeds 40 IOPs in flight. Note that this is not
>> the amount of total dirty memory but only the amount of already submitted
>> IO. I guess that on a very slow connection these can take time but in
>> regular line speeds I never observed more the 2 retries with this patch.
>>
>> It is all up to the client. NFS4ERR_RECALLCONFLICT means "the layouts you
>> have need to be released" (I say released because the forgetful model does
>> not actually returns them). Can you see a critical time when layouts are
>> held for longer than a second ?
>
> That will probably depend on the workload and possibly on the layout type.
>
> My point was, however, about the potential for mischief due to the mismatch between the number of retries that the resulting code allows, and the fixed period between those retries of 1/10 seconds. Why not rather use something along the lines of "rpc_delay(rpc_task, min(giveup -jiffies , max(jiffies - lgp->args.timestamp, NFS4_POLL_RETRY_MIN)));”? That gives you an initially exponential back off with a minimum period of NFS4_POLL_RETRY_MIN, and with an expiry date of ‘timeo’ jiffies after the first attempt.
Whoops. That should probably be
max(NFS4_POLL_RETRY_MIN, min(giveup - jiffies , jiffies - lgp->args.timestamp))
so that the time interval is not < NFS4_POLL_RETRY_MIN.
--
Trond Myklebust
Linux NFS client maintainer
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-14 22:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-14 15:32 [PATCH v2] pnfs: Proper delay for NFS4ERR_RECALLCONFLICT in layout_get_done Boaz Harrosh
2014-01-14 19:05 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-01-14 22:21 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-01-14 22:43 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-01-14 22:47 ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2014-01-14 23:41 ` Boaz Harrosh
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