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@ 2003-10-14 19:50 Ralph Churchill
  2003-10-16 19:42 ` Ralph Churchill
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Ralph Churchill @ 2003-10-14 19:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: nfs

I am experiencing a strange problem wherein a file
placed on an exported directory accessible by multiple
clients is occassionally only visible to SOME clients.
However, if I "force" some fake activity on the shared
directory (e.g. touching, then deleting a file in an
infinite loop), then ALL clients see the file at ALL
times. This leads me to belive the problem is related
to some buffering or caching... but where?

Relevant information:

Clients
-------
RedHat 9
kernel 2.6.0-test7
mounted
'rsize=8192,wsize=8192,noatime,nodiratime,noac'

Server
------
RedHat 9
kernel 2.4.20-8
nfs-utils-1.0.1-2.9
exported "*(rw)"
dir is 'ext3' mounted with 'noatime, nodiratime'

Any and all help is appreciated.

RMC

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* Re: (no subject)
  2003-10-14 19:50 (no subject) Ralph Churchill
@ 2003-10-16 19:42 ` Ralph Churchill
  2003-10-20 19:27   ` inconsistent NFS clients(was 'no subject') Ralph Churchill
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Ralph Churchill @ 2003-10-16 19:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: nfs

--- Ralph Churchill <mrchucho@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I am experiencing a strange problem wherein a file
> placed on an exported directory accessible by
> multiple
> clients is occassionally only visible to SOME
> clients.
> However, if I "force" some fake activity on the
> shared
> directory (e.g. touching, then deleting a file in an
> infinite loop), then ALL clients see the file at ALL
> times. This leads me to belive the problem is
> related
> to some buffering or caching... but where?
> 
> Relevant information:
> 
> Clients
> -------
> RedHat 9
> kernel 2.6.0-test7
> mounted
> 'rsize=8192,wsize=8192,noatime,nodiratime,noac'
> 
> Server
> ------
> RedHat 9
> kernel 2.4.20-8
> nfs-utils-1.0.1-2.9
> exported "*(rw)"
> dir is 'ext3' mounted with 'noatime, nodiratime'

I have a feeling that this inconsistent behavior may
be due to the way our application, matlab, is opening
and closing files. The fact that generating nfs
activity, in the form of a trival read and write in
the shell, causes the problem to disappear leads me to
this conclusion. It seems like it may be buffer
related. Is there anyway I can verify this?

Also, I've tried the 'noac' and 'nocto' options, and
while the 'noac' option seems to decrease response
times, the problems persist. Thank you.

RMC 

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* Re: inconsistent NFS clients(was 'no subject')
  2003-10-16 19:42 ` Ralph Churchill
@ 2003-10-20 19:27   ` Ralph Churchill
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Ralph Churchill @ 2003-10-20 19:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: nfs

I am still trying to track down this problem. I
upgraded to kernel 2.6-test8, but the problems
persist. Our application works by clients polling a
shared directory and touching files to indicate status
(beginning, done, etc.). Let's say client A touchs a
file, "begin", in the shared dir. If I write a shell
script to repeatedly do an 'ls /share', client B will
show the "begin" file. However, client A will say:

ls: /shared/begin: No such file or directory

This is confusing, because I'm NOT doing 'ls
/share/begin'!! It strikes me as odd that this file
isn't showing up to being with(when it clearly IS
there on the server and other clients), but also 'ls'
"thinks" it is there, but can't find it??

Again, I could REALLY use some help, this is very
confusing. I've tried just about EVERY combination of
options! Thanks.

RMC


--- Ralph Churchill <mrchucho@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- Ralph Churchill <mrchucho@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I am experiencing a strange problem wherein a file
> > placed on an exported directory accessible by
> > multiple
> > clients is occassionally only visible to SOME
> > clients.
> > However, if I "force" some fake activity on the
> > shared
> > directory (e.g. touching, then deleting a file in
> an
> > infinite loop), then ALL clients see the file at
> ALL
> > times. This leads me to belive the problem is
> > related
> > to some buffering or caching... but where?
> > 
> > Relevant information:
> > 
> > Clients
> > -------
> > RedHat 9
> > kernel 2.6.0-test7
> > mounted
> > 'rsize=8192,wsize=8192,noatime,nodiratime,noac'
> > 
> > Server
> > ------
> > RedHat 9
> > kernel 2.4.20-8
> > nfs-utils-1.0.1-2.9
> > exported "*(rw)"
> > dir is 'ext3' mounted with 'noatime, nodiratime'
> 
> I have a feeling that this inconsistent behavior may
> be due to the way our application, matlab, is
> opening
> and closing files. The fact that generating nfs
> activity, in the form of a trival read and write in
> the shell, causes the problem to disappear leads me
> to
> this conclusion. It seems like it may be buffer
> related. Is there anyway I can verify this?
> 
> Also, I've tried the 'noac' and 'nocto' options, and
> while the 'noac' option seems to decrease response
> times, the problems persist. Thank you.
> 
> RMC 
> 
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