From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
To: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>, Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, hch@lst.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] NFSD: handle unaligned DIO for NFS reexport
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2025 10:33:02 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2006e3616903dd0f6db5653675d5741289e7e06b.camel@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f430725a-600c-44da-8062-1b45b17537ce@oracle.com>
On Fri, 2025-08-01 at 10:07 -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> On 7/31/25 5:48 PM, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 05:28:13PM -0400, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 04:58:00PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2025-07-31 at 15:44 -0400, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > > > > NFS doesn't have any DIO alignment constraints but it doesn't support
> > > > > STATX_DIOALIGN, so update NFSD such that it doesn't disable the use of
> > > > > NFSD_IO_DIRECT if it is reexporting NFS.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
> > > > > ---
> > > > > fs/nfs/export.c | 3 ++-
> > > > > fs/nfsd/filecache.c | 11 +++++++++++
> > > > > include/linux/exportfs.h | 13 +++++++++++++
> > > > > 3 files changed, 26 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/fs/nfs/export.c b/fs/nfs/export.c
> > > > > index e9c233b6fd209..2cae75ba6b35d 100644
> > > > > --- a/fs/nfs/export.c
> > > > > +++ b/fs/nfs/export.c
> > > > > @@ -155,5 +155,6 @@ const struct export_operations nfs_export_ops = {
> > > > > EXPORT_OP_REMOTE_FS |
> > > > > EXPORT_OP_NOATOMIC_ATTR |
> > > > > EXPORT_OP_FLUSH_ON_CLOSE |
> > > > > - EXPORT_OP_NOLOCKS,
> > > > > + EXPORT_OP_NOLOCKS |
> > > > > + EXPORT_OP_NO_DIOALIGN_NEEDED,
> > > > > };
> > > > > diff --git a/fs/nfsd/filecache.c b/fs/nfsd/filecache.c
> > > > > index 5601e839a72da..ea489dd44fd9a 100644
> > > > > --- a/fs/nfsd/filecache.c
> > > > > +++ b/fs/nfsd/filecache.c
> > > > > @@ -1066,6 +1066,17 @@ nfsd_file_getattr(const struct svc_fh *fhp, struct nfsd_file *nf)
> > > > > nfsd_io_cache_write != NFSD_IO_DIRECT))
> > > > > return nfs_ok;
> > > > >
> > > > > + if (exportfs_handles_unaligned_dio(nf->nf_file->f_path.mnt->mnt_sb->s_export_op)) {
> > > > > + /* Underlying filesystem doesn't support STATX_DIOALIGN
> > > > > + * but it can handle all unaligned DIO, so establish
> > > > > + * DIO alignment that is accommodating.
> > > > > + */
> > > > > + nf->nf_dio_mem_align = 4;
> > > > > + nf->nf_dio_offset_align = PAGE_SIZE;
> > > > > + nf->nf_dio_read_offset_align = nf->nf_dio_offset_align;
> > > > > + return nfs_ok;
> > > > > + }
> > > > > +
> > > > > status = fh_getattr(fhp, &stat);
> > > > > if (status != nfs_ok)
> > > > > return status;
> > > > > diff --git a/include/linux/exportfs.h b/include/linux/exportfs.h
> > > > > index 9369a607224c1..626b8486dd985 100644
> > > > > --- a/include/linux/exportfs.h
> > > > > +++ b/include/linux/exportfs.h
> > > > > @@ -247,6 +247,7 @@ struct export_operations {
> > > > > */
> > > > > #define EXPORT_OP_FLUSH_ON_CLOSE (0x20) /* fs flushes file data on close */
> > > > > #define EXPORT_OP_NOLOCKS (0x40) /* no file locking support */
> > > > > +#define EXPORT_OP_NO_DIOALIGN_NEEDED (0x80) /* fs can handle unaligned DIO */
> > > > > unsigned long flags;
> > > > > };
> > > > >
> > > > > @@ -262,6 +263,18 @@ exportfs_cannot_lock(const struct export_operations *export_ops)
> > > > > return export_ops->flags & EXPORT_OP_NOLOCKS;
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > +/**
> > > > > + * exportfs_handles_unaligned_dio() - check if export can handle unaligned DIO
> > > > > + * @export_ops: the nfs export operations to check
> > > > > + *
> > > > > + * Returns true if the export can handle unaligned DIO.
> > > > > + */
> > > > > +static inline bool
> > > > > +exportfs_handles_unaligned_dio(const struct export_operations *export_ops)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > + return export_ops->flags & EXPORT_OP_NO_DIOALIGN_NEEDED;
> > > > > +}
> > > > > +
> > > > > extern int exportfs_encode_inode_fh(struct inode *inode, struct fid *fid,
> > > > > int *max_len, struct inode *parent,
> > > > > int flags);
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Would it not be simpler (better?) to add support for STATX_DIOALIGN to
> > > > NFS, and just have it report '1' for both values?
> > >
> > > I suppose adding NFS support for STATX_DIOALIGN, that doesn't actually
> > > go over the wire, does make sense.
> > >
> > > But I wouldn't think setting them to 1 valid. Pretty sure they need
> > > to be a power-of-2 (since they are used as masks passed to
> > > iov_iter_is_aligned).
> > >
> > > In addition, we want to make sure NFS's default DIO alignment (which
> > > isn't informed by actual DIO alignment advertised by NFSD's underlying
> > > filesystem and hardware, e.g. XFS and NVMe) is able to be compatible
> > > with both finer (512b) and coarser (4096b) grained DIO alignment.
> > > Only way to achieve that would be to skew toward the coarse-grained
> > > end of the spectrum, right?
> > >
> > > More conservative but more likely to work with everything.
> >
> > Thinking/looking further: I really do prefer the approach I took in
> > this patch (over the suggestion to implement STATX_DIOALIGN for NFS).
> >
> > Otherwise NFS would forced to needlessly issue an RPC via fh_getattr()
> > even though we're talking about NFS faking its STATX_DIOALIGN response
> > (so it doesn't need to do the work to do a full-blown GETATTR).
> >
> > This would be wasteful for the NFS reexport usecase.
>
> Jeff's point is that applications (and in particular, user space NFS
> servers) will use statx() to discover these values. The NFS client has
> to implement STATX_DIOALIGN.
>
> I don't buy the idea that using vfs_getattr() to call into the NFS
> client is wasteful here. Isn't this done once when the nfsd_file
> is opened? And, since these are emulated values that are not fetched
> via the NFS protocol, wouldn't that mean the NFS client could respond
> without sending an RPC?
>
> I prefer to not add the exception processing to NFSD if, in the medium
> to long run, the NFS client has to get support for DIOALIGN anyway.
>
I too think this would be a better approach. We have other exportable
filesystems that have no DIO alignment restrictions too (Ceph comes to
mind, but there are others). It would be nice if they "just worked" and
didn't have to do special EXPORT_* flag shenanigans.
--
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-01 14:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-31 19:44 [PATCH v2 0/4] NFSD DIRECT: add handling for misaligned WRITEs Mike Snitzer
2025-07-31 19:44 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] NFSD: refactor nfsd_read_vector_dio to EVENT_CLASS useful for READ and WRITE Mike Snitzer
2025-07-31 20:28 ` Jeff Layton
2025-07-31 19:44 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] NFSD: prepare nfsd_vfs_write() to use O_DIRECT on misaligned WRITEs Mike Snitzer
2025-07-31 20:28 ` Jeff Layton
2025-07-31 20:49 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-07-31 20:54 ` Jeff Layton
2025-07-31 19:44 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] NFSD: issue WRITEs using O_DIRECT even if IO is misaligned Mike Snitzer
2025-07-31 20:53 ` Jeff Layton
2025-07-31 19:44 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] NFSD: handle unaligned DIO for NFS reexport Mike Snitzer
2025-07-31 20:58 ` Jeff Layton
2025-07-31 21:28 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-07-31 21:45 ` Jeff Layton
2025-07-31 22:14 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-08-01 23:17 ` Tom Talpey
2025-07-31 21:48 ` Mike Snitzer
2025-08-01 14:07 ` Chuck Lever
2025-08-01 14:33 ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2025-08-01 16:06 ` Mike Snitzer
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