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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: "david m. richter" <richterd@citi.umich.edu>
Cc: Peter Staubach <staubach@redhat.com>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	"Muntz,  Daniel" <Dan.Muntz@netapp.com>,
	Alex Soule <soule@umich.edu>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
	Andrew Richardson <chardson@umich.edu>,
	nfs@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] nfsstat: adding -D/--diff-stat to nfsstat
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 14:50:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070801185052.GG13441@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSO.4.64.0708011425580.25204@citi.umich.edu>

On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 02:37:09PM -0400, david m. richter wrote:
> 	i think that zeroing all the counters is too much of a "big 
> hammer" approach to what was intended to be a quick and simple use-case.  
> if there's a kernel interface for zeroing stuff, then maybe that could be 
> added, too; someone should have-at.
> 
> 	thoughts, neil?

I think it was Steve that tried that a couple years ago.  I objected,
and feel like a bit of a jerk for it, because the fact is he did a fine
job of it as far as I could tell.

But I'd still object, for the same reasons; global zeroing of the in-kernel
stats is an operation that:

	- isn't friendly to concurrent processes gathering stats:
	  someone might want to run a cron job that summarizes the day's
	  nfs stats, but still be able to log in and get a quick
	  snapshot of current activity.
	- requires special privileges: you may be comfortable allowing
	  anyone to read the stats, but you probably won't allow anyone
	  to zero them.
	- requires a new kernel interface, when you could just do
	  everything in userspace and get something that works for free
	  on older kernels too....

But I think more snapshot-and-diff operations would be a fine idea.
And probably easy and fun to implement.

--b.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-01 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-31 21:38 [PATCH 0/7] nfsstat: adding -D/--diff-stat to nfsstat david m. richter
2007-07-31 22:11 ` Neil Brown
2007-07-31 23:29   ` david m. richter
2007-07-31 23:41     ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-08-01  0:42     ` Neil Brown
2007-08-01 11:55 ` Peter Staubach
2007-08-01 15:59   ` david m. richter
2007-08-01 16:49     ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-01 17:07       ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-08-01 17:42         ` david m. richter
2007-08-01 16:50     ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-08-01 17:35       ` david m. richter
2007-08-01 17:41         ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-08-01 17:45           ` david m. richter
2007-08-01 17:46         ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-01 17:48           ` david m. richter
2007-08-01 18:02             ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-01 18:12             ` david m. richter
2007-08-01 18:15             ` Muntz, Daniel
2007-08-01 18:37               ` david m. richter
2007-08-01 18:41                 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-01 18:47                   ` david m. richter
2007-08-01 18:50                 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2007-08-01 20:03                   ` Steve Dickson
2007-08-01 20:48                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-08-01 21:50                       ` Steve Dickson
2007-08-01 22:40                       ` Trond Myklebust
2007-08-01 18:38               ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-08-01 17:52           ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-08-01 17:55     ` Peter Staubach
2007-08-01 18:14       ` david m. richter
2007-08-01 18:22         ` Peter Staubach
2007-08-01 18:25           ` david m. richter
2007-08-01 18:57           ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-08-01 19:35           ` Chuck Lever
2007-08-01 20:16             ` Steve Dickson
2007-08-01 20:54               ` Chuck Lever
2007-08-01 19:42       ` Steve Dickson

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