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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: nfs@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-pm <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: A unresponsive file system can hang all I/O in the system on linux-2.6.23-rc6 (dirty_thresh problem?)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:26:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070928122628.965137f2.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1191006971.6702.25.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org>

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:16:11 -0400 Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no> wrote:

> On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 11:49 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:00:53 -0400 Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no> wrote:
> > > Do these patches also cause the memory reclaimers to steer clear of
> > > devices that are congested (and stop waiting on a congested device if
> > > they see that it remains congested for a long period of time)? Most of
> > > the collateral blocking I see tends to happen in memory allocation...
> > > 
> > 
> > No, they don't attempt to do that, but I suspect they put in place
> > infrastructure which could be used to improve direct-reclaimer latency.  In
> > the throttle_vm_writeout() path, at least.
> > 
> > Do you know where the stalls are occurring?  throttle_vm_writeout(), or via
> > direct calls to congestion_wait() from page_alloc.c and vmscan.c?  (running
> > sysrq-w five or ten times will probably be enough to determine this)
> 
> Looking back, they were getting caught up in
> balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited() and friends. See the attached
> example...

that one is nfs-on-loopback, which is a special case, isn't it?

NFS on loopback used to hang, but then we fixed it.  It looks like we
broke it again sometime in the intervening four years or so.

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-28 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <92cbf19b0709272332s25684643odaade0e98cb3a1f4@mail.gmail.com>
2007-09-28  6:50 ` A unresponsive file system can hang all I/O in the system on linux-2.6.23-rc6 (dirty_thresh problem?) Andrew Morton
2007-09-28  6:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28  8:27     ` Chakri n
2007-09-28  8:40       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28  9:01         ` Chakri n
2007-09-28  9:12           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28  9:20             ` Chakri n
2007-09-28  9:23               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 10:36                 ` Chakri n
2007-09-28 13:28   ` Jonathan Corbet
2007-09-28 13:35     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 16:45       ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-09-29  1:27       ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-28 18:04     ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 17:00   ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-28 18:49     ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 18:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-09-28 19:16         ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 19:16       ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-28 19:26         ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2007-09-28 19:52           ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-28 20:10             ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 20:32               ` Trond Myklebust
2007-09-28 20:43                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-09-28 21:36                   ` Chakri n
2007-09-28 23:33                     ` Chakri n
2007-09-28 20:24             ` Daniel Phillips
2007-09-29  1:51         ` KDB? Daniel Phillips
2007-09-29  0:46   ` A unresponsive file system can hang all I/O in the system on linux-2.6.23-rc6 (dirty_thresh problem?) Daniel Phillips

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