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From: Frank van Maarseveen <frankvm@frankvm.com>
To: "Peter Åstrand" <astrand-+4tYiAq3b6azQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
	NFS list <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	nfsv4@linux-nfs.org
Subject: Re: A new NFSv4 server...
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 14:50:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080104135048.GA27131@janus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801040954070.5004-K9BqGu7AvB3wj5YHdwD3Ga2PxDmRETKR@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 10:15:00AM +0100, Peter =C5strand wrote:
>=20
> [About v4]
>=20
>=20
> On Fri, 4 Jan 2008, Jeff Garzik wrote:
>=20
> > > > I really wish the entire wire protocol were scrapped and replac=
ed with
> > > > something more sane, and easier to parse.=20
> > > You had me worried there for a moment, I thought you might be the=
 first
> > > person to admit to liking the NFS4 protocol design.
>=20
> Couldn't agree more.=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> > In my personal opinion, version 4 of NFS is a quantum-leap improvem=
ent over
> > previous versions.  While I used NFS v3 extensively, I always felt =
it was a
> > crappy protocol, and unworthy of serious development effort. That c=
hanged with
> > v4.
> ...
> > > > It's tempting to see what would arise from a clean-slate wire p=
rotocol
> > > > effort, something that is otherwise compatible with NFS 4.x ope=
rations,
> > > > objects, and data model.
> >=20
> > It's more like v4 is a vast relative improvement over prior NFS.  G=
iven the
> > huge number of NFS users and sites, IMO v4 is a huge improvement fo=
r Unix file
> > sharing overall.
>=20
> Many years ago, before NFSv4 was finished, I felt the same. I was wai=
ting=20
> for v4 and thought that everything would be so much better. I wanted =
to=20
> help and started the "pynfs" project. Today, I have a different opini=
on. I=20
> think v3 is a fairly good protocol, if you use it correctly. For exam=
ple,=20
> many people don't realize that you don't need the portmapper, that yo=
u can=20
> use a single well-known TCP port, that you can use RPCSEC_GSS and so=20
> forth, even with v3.=20

Somehow this reminds me of IPv4 vs. IPv6. IIRC some protocol features h=
ave
in a sense been "backported" to IPv4.

--=20
=46rank

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-04 13:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-03 12:16 A new NFSv4 server Jeff Garzik
2008-01-03 16:32 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-04  5:32   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-04  6:24     ` Greg Banks
     [not found]       ` <477DD11B.40909-cP1dWloDopni96+mSzHFpQC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-04  7:04         ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-04  9:07           ` Benny Halevy
2008-01-04 15:49             ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-04 19:51               ` Benny Halevy
2008-01-05  1:46               ` Greg Banks
2008-01-05  7:56                 ` Benny Halevy
2008-01-04 17:47             ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-04 19:55               ` Benny Halevy
2008-01-04  9:15           ` Peter Åstrand
2008-01-04 10:05             ` Neil Brown
     [not found]             ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801040954070.5004-K9BqGu7AvB3wj5YHdwD3Ga2PxDmRETKR@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-04 13:50               ` Frank van Maarseveen [this message]
2008-01-04 16:41               ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-04 20:03                 ` Peter Åstrand
     [not found]                   ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801042030380.18738-K9BqGu7AvB3wj5YHdwD3Ga2PxDmRETKR@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-06 23:54                     ` James Morris
2008-01-04 20:31             ` Muntz, Daniel
2008-01-04  9:15 ` Peter Åstrand
2008-01-04 16:14   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-04 19:58     ` Peter Åstrand
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-01-04 15:28 Rick Macklem
     [not found] ` <200801041528.KAA18776-bYVALtacgsT800Iu1Vt84J3p9npsUQCG@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-04 17:21   ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-04 18:03     ` Tom Haynes
     [not found]       ` <477E750A.2030905-8AdZ+HgO7noAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-04 18:21         ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-04 19:50     ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-04 19:57       ` Peter Åstrand
     [not found]         ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0801042055490.18738-K9BqGu7AvB3wj5YHdwD3Ga2PxDmRETKR@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-05  0:43           ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-04 15:48 Rick Macklem
     [not found] ` <200801041548.KAA18953-bYVALtacgsT800Iu1Vt84J3p9npsUQCG@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-04 17:15   ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-05  2:32   ` Greg Banks
2008-01-04 17:11 Rick Macklem
     [not found] ` <200801041711.MAA19577-bYVALtacgsT800Iu1Vt84J3p9npsUQCG@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-05  0:51   ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-04 17:28 Rick Macklem
     [not found] ` <200801041728.MAA19743-bYVALtacgsT800Iu1Vt84J3p9npsUQCG@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-04 17:42   ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-04 17:45   ` Trond Myklebust

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