From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Wendy Cheng <wcheng@redhat.com>
Cc: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
NFS list <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
cluster-devel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] NLM failover unlock commands
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:40:02 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080117164002.GH16581@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <478F82DA.4060709@redhat.com>
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 11:31:22AM -0500, Wendy Cheng wrote:
> J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 10:48:56AM -0500, Wendy Cheng wrote:
>>
>>> J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>>>
>>>> Remind me: why do we need both per-ip and per-filesystem methods? In
>>>> practice, I assume that we'll always do *both*?
>>>>
>>> Failover normally is done via virtual IP address - so per-ip base
>>> method should be the core routine. However, for non-cluster
>>> filesystem such as ext3/4, changing server also implies umount. If
>>> there are clients not following rule and obtaining locks via
>>> different ip interfaces, umount would fail that ends up aborting the
>>> failover process. That's the place we need the per-filesystem
>>> method.
>>>
>>> ServerA:
>>> 1. Tear down the IP address
>>> 2. Unexport the path
>>> 3. Write IP to /proc/fs/nfsd/unlock_ip to unlock files
>>> 4. If unmount required,
>>> write path name to /proc/fs/nfsd/unlock_filesystem, then unmount.
>>> 5. Signal peer to begin take-over.
>>>
>>> Sometime ago we were looking at "export name" as the core method (so
>>> per-filesystem method is a subset of that). Unfortunately, the
>>> prototype efforts showed the code would be too intrusive (if
>>> filesystem sub-tree is exported).
>>>
>>>> We're migrating clients by moving a server ip address from one node to
>>>> another. And I assume we're permitting at most one node to export each
>>>> filesystem at a time. So it *should* be the case that the set of locks
>>>> held on the filesystem(s) that are moving are the same as the set of
>>>> locks held by the virtual ip that is moving.
>>>>
>>> This is true for non-cluster filesystem. But a cluster filesystem can
>>> be exported from multiple servers.
>>>
>>
>> But that last sentence:
>>
>> it *should* be the case that the set of locks held on the
>> filesystem(s) that are moving are the same as the set of locks
>> held by the virtual ip that is moving.
>>
>> is still true in the cluster filesystem case, right?
>>
>> --b.
>>
> Yes .... Wendy
In one situations (buggy client? Weird network failure?) could that
fail to be the case?
Would there be any advantage to enforcing that requirement in the
server? (For example, teaching nlm to reject any locking request for a
certain filesystem that wasn't sent to a certain server IP.)
--b.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-17 16:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-07 5:39 [PATCH 1/2] NLM failover unlock commands Wendy Cheng
2008-01-08 5:18 ` Neil Brown
2008-01-09 2:51 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-08 17:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-01-08 17:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-01-08 20:57 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-09 18:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-01-10 7:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-01-12 7:03 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-12 9:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-01-14 23:07 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-14 23:31 ` Neil Brown
[not found] ` <18315.61638.14133.308991-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2008-01-15 16:38 ` Chuck Lever
2008-01-22 22:53 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-24 4:02 ` Neil Brown
2008-01-15 16:14 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-15 16:30 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-14 23:52 ` Neil Brown
2008-01-15 20:17 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-15 20:50 ` Neil Brown
2008-01-15 20:56 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-15 22:48 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-16 4:19 ` Neil Brown
2008-01-17 15:10 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-17 15:48 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-17 16:08 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-17 16:10 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-18 10:21 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2008-01-18 15:00 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-17 16:14 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-17 16:17 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-17 16:21 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-17 16:31 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-17 16:31 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-17 16:40 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2008-01-17 17:35 ` Frank Filz
2008-01-17 17:59 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-17 18:07 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-17 20:23 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-18 10:03 ` Frank van Maarseveen
2008-01-18 14:56 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-24 16:00 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-24 16:19 ` Peter Staubach
2008-01-24 16:39 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-24 19:45 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-24 20:19 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-24 21:06 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-24 21:40 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-01-24 21:49 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-28 3:46 ` Felix Blyakher
2008-01-28 15:56 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-28 17:06 ` [Cluster-devel] " Felix Blyakher
2008-01-09 3:49 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-01-09 16:13 ` J. Bruce Fields
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