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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: "Talpey, Thomas" <Thomas.Talpey@netapp.com>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>,
	Peter Staubach <staubach@redhat.com>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, lhh@redhat.com, nfsv4@linux-nfs.org,
	nhorman@redhat.com
Subject: Re: rapid clustered nfs server failover and hung clients -- how best to close the sockets?
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 13:14:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080609171441.GA26920@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <RTPCLUEXC1-PRDF8Eqf000001d4-rtwIt2gI0FxT+ZUat5FNkAK/GNPrWCqfQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Jun 09, 2008 at 12:09:48PM -0400, Talpey, Thomas wrote:
> At 12:01 PM 6/9/2008, Jeff Layton wrote:
> >On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:51:51 -0400
> >"Talpey, Thomas" <Thomas.Talpey@netapp.com> wrote:
> >
> >> At 11:18 AM 6/9/2008, Jeff Layton wrote:
> >> >No, it's not specific to NFS. It can happen to any "service" that
> >> >floats IP addresses between machines, but does not close the sockets
> >> >that are connected to those addresses. Most services that fail over
> >> >(at least in RH's cluster server) shut down the daemons on failover
> >> >too, so tends to mitigate this problem elsewhere.
> >> 
> >> Why exactly don't you choose to restart the nfsd's (and lockd's) on the
> >> victim server?
> >
> >The victim server might have other nfsd/lockd's running on them. Stopping
> >all the nfsd's could bring down lockd, and then you have to deal with lock
> >recovery on the stuff that isn't moving to the other server.
> 
> But but but... the IP address is the only identification the client can use
> to isolate a server.

Right.

> You're telling me that some locks will migrate and some won't?  Good
> luck with that! The clients are going to be mightily confused.

Locks migrate or not depending on the server ip address.  Where do you
see the confusion?

--b.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-09 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-09 14:31 rapid clustered nfs server failover and hung clients -- how best to close the sockets? Jeff Layton
     [not found] ` <20080609103137.2474aabd-RtJpwOs3+0O+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-09 15:03   ` Peter Staubach
2008-06-09 15:18     ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]       ` <20080609111821.6e06d4f8-RtJpwOs3+0O+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-09 15:31         ` Neil Horman
2008-06-09 15:43           ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]         ` <RTPCLUEXC1-PRDOLZCH000001d2-rtwIt2gI0FxT+ZUat5FNkAK/GNPrWCqfQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
     [not found]           ` <20080609120110.1fee7221-RtJpwOs3+0O+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
     [not found]             ` <RTPCLUEXC1-PRDF8Eqf000001d4-rtwIt2gI0FxT+ZUat5FNkAK/GNPrWCqfQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
     [not found]               ` <20080609122249.51767b21-RtJpwOs3+0O+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-09 16:40                 ` Talpey, Thomas
2008-06-09 16:46                   ` Jeff Layton
2008-06-09 18:03                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-06-09 17:14               ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2008-06-09 15:51       ` Talpey, Thomas
2008-06-09 16:01         ` Jeff Layton
2008-06-09 16:03           ` Neil Horman
2008-06-09 16:09           ` Talpey, Thomas
2008-06-09 16:22             ` Jeff Layton
2008-06-09 19:36               ` Chuck Lever
2008-06-09 20:11                 ` Jeff Layton
2008-06-09 20:56                   ` Chuck Lever
2008-06-09 15:23     ` Neil Horman
2008-06-09 15:37       ` Peter Staubach
2008-06-09 15:49         ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]           ` <20080609114909.131cfaef-RtJpwOs3+0O+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-09 16:01             ` Chuck Lever
2008-06-09 16:04         ` Neil Horman
2008-06-09 15:46       ` Chuck Lever
2008-06-09 16:00       ` Peter Staubach
2008-06-09 16:24         ` Neil Horman
2008-06-09 15:51 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-06-09 16:02   ` Jeff Layton
2008-06-09 17:23     ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-06-09 19:10       ` Jeff Layton
2008-06-09 20:19         ` Lon Hohberger
2008-06-09 17:14 ` Wendy Cheng
2008-06-09 17:24   ` Jeff Layton
2008-06-09 17:51     ` Talpey, Thomas
2008-06-09 17:59       ` Talpey, Thomas
2008-06-09 19:01       ` Jeff Layton
2008-06-09 19:13         ` Talpey, Thomas
2008-06-09 18:10     ` Neil Horman
2008-06-09 18:07   ` Neil Horman

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