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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Tom Tucker <tom@opengridcomputing.com>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, Tom Talpey <Thomas.Talpey@netapp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/10] svcrdma: Documentation update for the FastReg memory model
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:44:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080930184433.GC12268@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48E197ED.6080409@opengridcomputing.com>

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:07:25PM -0500, Tom Tucker wrote:
> J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 08:35:26AM -0500, Tom Tucker wrote:
>>> J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>>>> This explanation is helpful, thanks.  It would also be helpful if we
>>>> could boil down the advice to just a sentence or two for the busy admin.
>>>> Something like:  unless you have card XYZ and kernel 2.6.y, do *not* use
>>>> rdma on a network where you cannot trust every machine....
>>>
>>> Would it be better to say, "Do not use RDMA on a network where your   
>>> policy requires a security model stronger than tcp/auth_unix."
>>
>> I'm not worried about the case where the security provided is roughly
>> equivalent to that provided by tcp/auth_unix.
>>
>> I'm worried about the non-"Fast Reg" case where I thought you were
>> saying that the network could access memory other than that meant to
>> hold rpc data.
>>
>
> Ok, so maybe we could state the security exposure of ALLPHYSICAL instead  
> of dwelling on the relative differences between the similar exposures of  
> tcp/auth_unix vs. fastreg?

Right.  It's all interesting, so I wouldn't cut anything out--but you
could put off the details to the end; e.g., start with "in situation
<...>, nfs/rdma provides roughly the same security as nfs over tcp and
auth_unix (see below for more details)".

> I'd also like to get to fastreg as a default at some point.

OK, good.

> What's your perspective on the lifetime of bounce buffers, memory  
> windows, and the other strategies in client?

I'm ignorant.  Pointer to something else I should read?

I assume there are similar issues on the client?

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-30 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1221564879-85046-1-git-send-email-tom@opengridcomputing.com>
     [not found] ` <1221564879-85046-2-git-send-email-tom@opengridcomputing.com>
2008-09-24 19:11   ` [PATCH 01/10] svcrdma: Add Fast Reg MR Data Types J. Bruce Fields
2008-09-25 14:27     ` Tom Tucker
     [not found]   ` <1221564879-85046-3-git-send-email-tom@opengridcomputing.com>
2008-09-24 19:45     ` [PATCH 02/10] svcrdma: Add FRMR get/put services J. Bruce Fields
2008-09-25 14:25       ` Tom Tucker
2008-09-25 14:44         ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-09-25 20:31           ` Tom Tucker
     [not found]     ` <1221564879-85046-4-git-send-email-tom@opengridcomputing.com>
2008-09-24 20:10       ` [PATCH 03/10] svcrdma: Query device for Fast Reg support during connection setup J. Bruce Fields
2008-09-25 14:08         ` Tom Tucker
     [not found]       ` <1221564879-85046-5-git-send-email-tom@opengridcomputing.com>
2008-09-24 20:25         ` [PATCH 04/10] svcrdma: Add a service to register a Fast Reg MR with the device J. Bruce Fields
2008-09-25 13:31           ` Tom Tucker
     [not found]         ` <1221564879-85046-6-git-send-email-tom@opengridcomputing.com>
2008-09-24 20:31           ` [PATCH 05/10] svcrdma: Modify post recv path to use local dma key J. Bruce Fields
2008-09-25 13:36             ` Tom Tucker
     [not found]           ` <1221564879-85046-7-git-send-email-tom@opengridcomputing.com>
     [not found]             ` <1221564879-85046-8-git-send-email-tom@opengridcomputing.com>
     [not found]               ` <1221564879-85046-9-git-send-email-tom@opengridcomputing.com>
     [not found]                 ` <1221564879-85046-10-git-send-email-tom@opengridcomputing.com>
     [not found]                   ` <1221564879-85046-11-git-send-email-tom@opengridcomputing.com>
2008-09-24 21:21                     ` [PATCH 10/10] svcrdma: Documentation update for the FastReg memory model J. Bruce Fields
2008-09-25 13:35                       ` Tom Tucker
2008-09-26 16:01                         ` Talpey, Thomas
     [not found]                           ` <RTPCLUEXC2-PRDGryWt0000003c-rtwIt2gI0FxT+ZUat5FNkAK/GNPrWCqfQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2008-09-30  2:59                             ` Tom Tucker
2008-09-26 23:40                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-09-30  3:07                           ` Tom Tucker
2008-09-30 18:44                             ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2008-09-30 18:55                               ` Tom Tucker
2008-09-30 18:57                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-09-30 20:17                                   ` Tom Tucker
2008-10-01 16:17                                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-10-02  0:38                                       ` Tom Tucker
2008-09-30 19:04                               ` Talpey, Thomas
     [not found]                                 ` <RTPCLUEXC2-PRDgFrYI00000094-rtwIt2gI0FxT+ZUat5FNkAK/GNPrWCqfQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-01 18:26                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-10-01 19:18                                     ` Talpey, Thomas
     [not found]                                     ` <RTPCLUEXC2-PRDVjCRG000000bb-rtwIt2gI0FxT+ZUat5FNkAK/GNPrWCqfQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2008-10-01 19:23                                       ` Talpey, Thomas

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