From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Peter Staubach <staubach@redhat.com>
Cc: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] NFS: Change default behavior when "sec=" is not specified by user
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 14:50:11 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090901185011.GC27726@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A9D690E.2050704@redhat.com>
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 02:33:50PM -0400, Peter Staubach wrote:
> Chuck Lever wrote:
> >
> > On Sep 1, 2009, at 12:38 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 12:29:30PM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> >>> On Sep 1, 2009, at 12:09 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> >>>> And, sure, that'd be OK with me, and would probably be better than
> >>>> adding another exception, so I'm OK with skipping #3. (We definitely
> >>>> shouldn't omit #2, though.)
> >>>
> >>> Seems straightforward enough, but... Why are we doing this again? It
> >>> still seems like non-standard behavior. Are we simply attempting to
> >>> avoid the case where folks would get the "nobody" behavior unexpectedly
> >>> because of a mountd bug, or is there more to it?
> >>
> >> That's all there is to it. As I said:
> >>
> >>>>>>>> 2. In the absence of sec=, we should probably *not* choose
> >>>>>>>> AUTH_NULL. (All mountd's before 1.1.3 list AUTH_NULL first on
> >>>>>>>> the returned list, so users with older servers may wonder why a
> >>>>>>>> client upgrade is making files they create suddenly be owned by
> >>>>>>>> nobody.) http://marc.info/?l=linux-nfs&m=125089022306281&w=2
> >>
> >>> I'm just thinking of what the documenting comment might say, and perhaps
> >>> some explanation added to nfs(5).
> >>
> >> "As a special case, to work around bugs in some older servers, the
> >> client will never automatically negotiate auth_null; if auth_null is
> >> desired, an explicit "sec=null" on the commandline is required."
> >>
> >> Or something like that.
> >
> > OK, one more corner case.
> >
> > What if the mount doesn't specify "sec=" and the only flavor in the
> > server's auth list is AUTH_NULL? Seems like we should allow that one.
> >
>
> Some servers will accept any flavor of incoming RPC security
> and just use AUTH_NULL in this situation. It really shouldn't
> matter what the client sends, as long as the server is just
> going to map all requests to nobody/nobody anyway...
OK, but let's not pile on more workarounds than we have to. I don't see
any reason that we really need to do anything special for servers that
are broken in *that* particular way....
--b.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-01 18:50 UTC|newest]
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2009-09-01 14:31 [PATCH] NFS: Change default behavior when "sec=" is not specified by user Chuck Lever
[not found] ` <20090901143012.3978.11441.stgit-RytpoXr2tKZ9HhUboXbp9zCvJB+x5qRC@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-01 15:05 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-09-01 15:10 ` Chuck Lever
2009-09-01 15:18 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-09-01 15:52 ` Chuck Lever
2009-09-01 16:09 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-09-01 16:29 ` Chuck Lever
2009-09-01 16:38 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-09-01 18:07 ` Chuck Lever
2009-09-01 18:21 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-09-01 18:25 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <1251829540.18608.31.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-01 18:28 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <1251829737.18608.34.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-01 18:35 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-09-01 18:58 ` Chuck Lever
2009-09-01 19:31 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <1251833479.18608.69.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-01 19:33 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-09-01 20:10 ` Chuck Lever
2009-09-01 20:15 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-09-01 20:31 ` Chuck Lever
2009-09-01 21:22 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <1251840160.8463.20.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-02 14:16 ` Chuck Lever
2009-09-01 18:33 ` Peter Staubach
2009-09-01 18:50 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2009-09-01 18:52 ` Peter Staubach
2009-09-01 19:16 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-09-01 19:24 ` Peter Staubach
2009-09-01 20:05 ` J. Bruce Fields
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