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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] Fix up the NFS mmap code
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 01:46:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100109014634.GE30528@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100109013825.GD30528@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 01:38:25AM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 05:17:14PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 8 Jan 2010, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > >
> > > How about something like the following. I chose to wrap the call to
> > > do_mmap_pgoff() instead of making a special ->pre_mmap(), since that
> > > seems more consistent with the way we handle ->read() and ->write().
> > 
> > I still don't think that you can ever do mmap _and_ readdir on the same 
> > inode, so there's something wrong with the lockdep annotations.
> 
> readdir() is certainly a red herring.  write(), OTOH, is quite real.
> And there we do i_mutex followed by pagefaults.
> 
> I *REALLY* dislike Trond's solution, though.
> 
> Could we please get a sane expalanation of the reasons why nfs mmap
> wants i_mutex in the first place?  Before we add yet another hook
> from hell and complicate already overcomplicated area...

PS: mmap/write deadlock is real, AFAICT - unless something very subtle
prevents it, we can get buggered if we have two threads with the same
VM, mmap 1.4Mb from floppy and do
thread A:
	write(fd_on_nfs, buffer_mmaped_from_floppy, 1440 * 1024);
thread B:
	mmap(..., fd_on_nfs, ...)

It's not even particulary narrow.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-09  1:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1262913974.2659.101.camel@localhost>
2010-01-09  0:56 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] Fix up the NFS mmap code Trond Myklebust
     [not found]   ` <20100109005624.7473.33215.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-09  0:56     ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] VFS: Add a mmap_file() callback to struct file_operations Trond Myklebust
2010-01-09  1:17     ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] Fix up the NFS mmap code Linus Torvalds
     [not found]       ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1001081709470.7821-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-09  1:38         ` Al Viro
2010-01-09  1:46           ` Al Viro [this message]
2010-01-09  1:57           ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]             ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1001081750080.7821-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-09  2:11               ` Al Viro
2010-01-09  2:22                 ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                   ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1001081814240.7821-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-09  2:30                     ` Al Viro
2010-01-09  2:40                       ` Al Viro
2010-01-09  2:43                         ` Al Viro
2010-01-10  2:00     ` Andi Kleen
2010-01-09  0:56   ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] NFS: Fix a potential deadlock in nfs_file_mmap() Trond Myklebust
     [not found]     ` <20100109005624.7473.15560.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-09  1:54       ` Al Viro

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