From: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Should we expect close-to-open consistency on directories?
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:03:21 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100421170321.41592c77@notabene.brown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1271768521.25129.94.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:02:01 -0400
Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no> wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 17:22 +1000, Neil Brown wrote:
> > Hi Trond et al,
> >
> > It has come to my attention that NFS directories don't behave consistently
> > in terms of cache consistency.
> >
> > If, on the client, you have a loop like:
> >
> > while true; do sleep 1; ls -l $dirname ; done
> >
> > and then on the server you make changes to the named directory, there are
> > some cases where you will see changes promptly and some where you wont.
> >
> > In particular, if $dirname is '.' or the name of an NFS mountpoint, then
> > changes can be delayed by up to acdirmax. If it is any other path, i.e. with
> > a non-trivial path component that is in the NFS filesystem, then changes
> > are seen promptly.
> >
> > This seems to me to relate to "close to open" consistency. Of course with
> > directories the 'close' side isn't relevant, but I still think it should be
> > that when you open a directory it validates the 'change' attribute on that
> > directory over the wire.
> >
> > However the Linux VFS never tells NFS when a directory is opened. The
> > current correct behaviour for most directories is achieved through
> > d_revalidate == nfs_lookup_revalidate.
> >
> > For '.' and mountpoints we need a different approach. Possibly the VFS could
> > be changed to tell the filesystem when such a directory is opened. However I
> > don't feel up to that at the moment.
>
> I agree that mountpoints are problematic in this case, however why isn't
> '.' working correctly? Is the FS_REVAL_DOT mechanism broken?
Yes, the FS_REVAL_DOT mechanism is broken.
Specifically, when you open ".", ->d_revalidate is called by link_path_walk,
but LOOKUP_PARENT is set, and LOOKUP_OPEN is not set, so
nfs_lookup_verify_inode doesn't force a revalidate.
Then in do_last(), LOOKUP_PARENT is no longer set, and LOOKUP_OPEN is, but
do_last doesn't bother calling ->d_revalidate for LAST_DOT.
I verified this understanding with the following patch which causes
"ls ." to reliably get current (rather than cached) contents of the directory.
diff --git a/fs/namei.c b/fs/namei.c
index 48e60a1..f9204af 100644
--- a/fs/namei.c
+++ b/fs/namei.c
@@ -1620,6 +1620,8 @@ static struct file *do_last(struct nameidata *nd, struct path *path,
switch (nd->last_type) {
case LAST_DOTDOT:
follow_dotdot(nd);
+ /* fallthrough */
+ case LAST_DOT:
dir = nd->path.dentry;
if (nd->path.mnt->mnt_sb->s_type->fs_flags & FS_REVAL_DOT) {
if (!dir->d_op->d_revalidate(dir, nd)) {
@@ -1627,8 +1629,6 @@ static struct file *do_last(struct nameidata *nd, struct path *path,
goto exit;
}
}
- /* fallthrough */
- case LAST_DOT:
case LAST_ROOT:
if (open_flag & O_CREAT)
goto exit;
>
> The other thing is that we should definitely expect the VFS to call
> nfs_opendir() once it has opened the file.
Oh yes, I see that now. So we could force a cache revalidation there.
But I'm not sure how to test if this is a mountpoint as you suggest below.
Maybe something like the following. I'm pretty sure this is wrong as it
ignores the return value of d_revalidate, but I didn't know what to do with
the value.
Al ??
--- a/fs/namei.c
+++ b/fs/namei.c
@@ -720,6 +720,11 @@ done:
path->mnt = mnt;
path->dentry = dentry;
__follow_mount(path);
+ if (path->dentry != dentry)
+ if (path->dentry && path->dentry->d_sb &&
+ (path->dentry->d_sb->s_type->fs_flags & FS_REVAL_DOT))
+ path->dentry->d_op->d_revalidate(
+ path->dentry, nd);
return 0;
need_lookup:
Thanks,
NeilBrown
>
> > An alternative is to do a revalidation in nfs_readdir as below. i.e. when
> > readdir see f_pos == 0, it requests a revalidation of the page cache.
> > This has two problems:
> > 1/ a seek before the first read would cause the revalidation to be skipped.
> > This can be fixed by putting a similar test in nfs_llseek_dir, or maybe
> > triggering off 'dir_cookie == NULL' rather than 'f_pos == 0'.
> > 2/ A normal open/readdir sequence will validate a directory twice, once in the
> > lookup and once in the readdir. This is probably undesirable, but it is
> > not clear to me how to fix it.
> >
> >
> > So: is it reasonable to view the current behaviour as 'wrong'?
> > any suggestions on how to craft a less problematic fix?
>
> nfs_opendir() should fix case 1/, but still has the issue with case 2/.
> How about just having it force a revalidation if we see that this is a
> mountpoint?
>
> Cheers
> Trond
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-21 7:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-20 7:22 [PATCH] Should we expect close-to-open consistency on directories? Neil Brown
2010-04-20 13:02 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-04-21 7:03 ` Neil Brown [this message]
2010-05-06 4:13 ` Neil Brown
[not found] ` <20100506141347.06451f56-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-06 13:58 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-05-07 22:34 ` Neil Brown
2010-05-08 13:05 ` Chuck Lever
2010-05-08 22:08 ` Neil Brown
2010-05-10 2:29 ` Chuck Lever
2010-05-10 3:01 ` Neil Brown
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