From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] VFS: fix recent breakage of FS_REVAL_DOT
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 02:58:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100525015822.GV31073@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100525111405.04eaf924@notabene.brown>
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:14:05AM +1000, Neil Brown wrote:
> I must confess though that I don't feel I understand VFS name lookup properly
> any more. Since intents were added it seems to have become much more obscure
> and complex. I cannot help thinking that there must be a better way:
> distinguish between the various cases at a higher level so we don't need as
> many flags being passed around and interpreted by widely separate pieces of
> code. I don't have a concrete proposal but I would certainly be interested
> to work on one if there were any hope of real change.
> Thoughts?
Intents are vile crap that has been introduced by the nfs folks to start
with... I've been trying to localize the mess and it's got a _lot_ better
than it used to be a year ago, but they are still not gone. And yes, I
plan to kill that crap. Basically, most of the do_last() guts will become
a method that would get struct file *explicitly* and ask the fs to do
(possibly atomic) open. With normal filesystems defaulting to what's there
right now.
The main obstacle at the moment is in ->d_revalidate() abuses. NFS, CIFS
*and* autofs, the last one in a way that isn't really compatible with what
NFS et.al. are trying to do. Overloading of ->d_revalidate() and ->lookup()
to do the work of open() doesn't help, and the horrors nfs4 piles on top
of that are even scarier.
_Another_ fine piece of something is ->follow_link() abuses, including
referrals' treatment. Also tied to the previous messes.
We definitely will need to get VFS-to-fs APIs in that area changed; most of
the mess has been created by the deeply misguided efforts to keep the API
changes minimal.
As for the flags, quite a few will be gone once we split "opening the final
component" from the normal cases. Google for lookup_instantiate_filp+shit
for details of these plans...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-25 1:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-24 6:57 [PATCH] VFS: fix recent breakage of FS_REVAL_DOT Neil Brown
2010-05-24 11:59 ` Al Viro
2010-05-24 15:50 ` Al Viro
2010-05-24 16:21 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-05-24 16:47 ` Al Viro
2010-05-24 17:06 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-05-24 19:08 ` Al Viro
2010-05-24 21:13 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-05-24 23:01 ` Al Viro
2010-05-24 23:44 ` Al Viro
2010-05-25 13:04 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-05-25 12:57 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-05-25 1:35 ` Neil Brown
2010-05-25 1:14 ` Neil Brown
2010-05-25 1:58 ` Al Viro [this message]
2010-05-26 2:52 ` Neil Brown
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