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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"Patrick J. LoPresti" <lopresti@gmail.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Proposal: Use hi-res clock for file timestamps
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 21:25:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100818192508.GC6567@basil.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100818185456.GD13050@fieldses.org>

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 02:54:56PM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 07:50:40PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > >  - nfsd updates it whenever it reads an mtime out of an inode that matches
> > >    current_fs_time to the granularity of 1/HZ.
> > 
> > That means you have a very very hot cache line on a larger system
> > if there are a lot of mtime changes. Probably a bad idea.
> 
> Only if those mtime changes are also followed immediately by nfsd reads
> of the mtime.

If multiple writers are changing the same location in quick succession 
you have a hot cache line that gets bounced around.  It doesn't need reads,
although reads make it even worse.

There's a lot of effort currently to make the VFS more parallel
and less synchronized and it would be bad again to regress here again.

-Andi
-- 
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-18 19:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-13 18:25 Proposal: Use hi-res clock for file timestamps Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-13 18:45 ` john stultz
2010-08-13 18:57   ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-13 19:09     ` john stultz
2010-08-13 20:53       ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-14 16:45         ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-15  1:50         ` Bret Towe
2010-08-13 19:57     ` Jim Rees
2010-08-13 20:26       ` john stultz
2010-08-13 20:52         ` Jim Rees
2010-08-17 14:54 ` Andi Kleen
2010-08-17 17:41   ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-17 18:29     ` Andi Kleen
2010-08-17 18:50       ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-17 19:04       ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-17 19:18         ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-17 19:39           ` Alan Cox
2010-08-17 19:29             ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-17 19:52               ` Alan Cox
2010-08-18  5:53               ` Neil Brown
2010-08-18 14:46                 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-18 17:32                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-18 18:15                   ` Chuck Lever
2010-08-18 23:41                     ` Neil Brown
2010-08-19  0:52                       ` Neil Brown
2010-08-19  2:08                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-19  2:44                           ` Neil Brown
2010-08-19 22:46                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-18 23:47                   ` Neil Brown
2010-08-18 17:50                 ` Andi Kleen
2010-08-18 18:54                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-18 19:25                     ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2010-08-18 19:30                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-17 19:34             ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-17 19:54               ` Alan Cox
2010-08-17 19:43                 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-17 19:45                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-18 18:12               ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-19  1:41                 ` john stultz
2010-08-19  2:31                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-19  3:17                     ` john stultz
2010-08-19 22:53                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-18 18:20       ` David Woodhouse
2010-08-18 18:32         ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-18 18:53         ` Andi Kleen

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