From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
"Patrick J. LoPresti" <lopresti@gmail.com>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Proposal: Use hi-res clock for file timestamps
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 22:08:03 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100819020803.GA30151@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100819105218.7620ec29@notabene>
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:52:18AM +1000, Neil Brown wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:41:36 +1000
> Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de> wrote:
>
> > So I agree that this is probably more of an issue for directories than for
> > files, and that implementing it just for directories would be a sensible
> > first step with lower expected overhead - just my reasoning seems to be a bit
> > different.
>
> Just to be sure we are on the same page:
> file_update_time would always refer to current_nfsd_time, but nfsd would
> only update current_nfsd_time when a directory was examined (and the other
> conditions were met).
>
>
> So my current thinking on how this would look - names have been changed:
>
> - global timespec 'current_fs_precise_time' is zeroed when
> current_kernel_time moves backwards and is protected by a seqlock
>
> - current_fs_time would be
> now = max(current_kernel_time(), current_fs_precise_time)
> return timespec_trunc(now, sb->s_time_gran)
> (with appropriate seqlock protection)
>
> - new function in fs/inode.c
> get_precise_time(timestamp)
Odd name for something that returns nothing of interest;
bump_precise_time() might be closer?
And unique_time might be better than precise_time, since the property
we're asking for is that mtime on a changed file by new? (Or
versioned_time?)
> cft = current_fs_time()
> if (timestamp == cft)
/*
* Make sure the next mtime stored will be
* something different from timestamp:
*/
> write_seqlock()
> if cft == current_fs_precise_time
> current_fs_precise_time.tv_nsec++
> else if cft > current_fs_precise_time
What's the cft < current_fs_precise_time case?
--b.
> current_fs_precise_time = cft
> write_sequnlock()
> return timestamp
>
> - nfsd xdr response routine does
> ts = inode->i_mtime
> if (S_ISDIR(inode->i_mode))
> ts = get_precise_time(ts)
> xdr_encode_timespec(ts)
>
>
> get_precise_time() probably needs a bit more subtlety to handle different
> s_time_gran values and possible races, but I think it is fairly close.
>
> Then if we ever had an xstat or similar that could ask for precise
> timestamps, it just makes a similar call to get_precise_time.
> Also if we added code later to use a hires timer on hardware where it was
> efficient, get_precise_time could test for that and become a no-op
>
> Yes, I should probably turn this into a patch ... maybe another day.
>
> NeilBrown
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-19 2:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-13 18:25 Proposal: Use hi-res clock for file timestamps Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-13 18:45 ` john stultz
2010-08-13 18:57 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-13 19:09 ` john stultz
2010-08-13 20:53 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-14 16:45 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-15 1:50 ` Bret Towe
2010-08-13 19:57 ` Jim Rees
2010-08-13 20:26 ` john stultz
2010-08-13 20:52 ` Jim Rees
2010-08-17 14:54 ` Andi Kleen
2010-08-17 17:41 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-17 18:29 ` Andi Kleen
2010-08-17 18:50 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-17 19:04 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-17 19:18 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-17 19:39 ` Alan Cox
2010-08-17 19:29 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-17 19:52 ` Alan Cox
2010-08-18 5:53 ` Neil Brown
2010-08-18 14:46 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-18 17:32 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-18 18:15 ` Chuck Lever
2010-08-18 23:41 ` Neil Brown
2010-08-19 0:52 ` Neil Brown
2010-08-19 2:08 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2010-08-19 2:44 ` Neil Brown
2010-08-19 22:46 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-18 23:47 ` Neil Brown
2010-08-18 17:50 ` Andi Kleen
2010-08-18 18:54 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-18 19:25 ` Andi Kleen
2010-08-18 19:30 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-17 19:34 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-17 19:54 ` Alan Cox
2010-08-17 19:43 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-17 19:45 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-18 18:12 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-19 1:41 ` john stultz
2010-08-19 2:31 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-19 3:17 ` john stultz
2010-08-19 22:53 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-18 18:20 ` David Woodhouse
2010-08-18 18:32 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-18 18:53 ` Andi Kleen
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