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From: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
To: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"Patrick J. LoPresti" <lopresti@gmail.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Proposal: Use hi-res clock for file timestamps
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:52:18 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100819105218.7620ec29@notabene> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100819094136.24fef59b@notabene>

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:41:36 +1000
Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de> wrote:

> So I agree that this is probably more of an issue for directories than for
> files, and that implementing it just for directories would be a sensible
> first step with lower expected overhead - just my reasoning seems to be a bit
> different.

Just to be sure we are on the same page:
  file_update_time would always refer to current_nfsd_time, but nfsd would
  only update current_nfsd_time when a directory was examined (and the other
  conditions were met).


So my current thinking on how this would look - names have been changed:

 - global timespec 'current_fs_precise_time' is zeroed when
   current_kernel_time moves backwards and is protected by a seqlock

 - current_fs_time would be
         now = max(current_kernel_time(), current_fs_precise_time)
         return timespec_trunc(now, sb->s_time_gran)
   (with appropriate seqlock protection)

 - new function in fs/inode.c
         get_precise_time(timestamp)
                cft = current_fs_time()
                if (timestamp == cft)
                   write_seqlock()
                   if cft == current_fs_precise_time
                        current_fs_precise_time.tv_nsec++
                   else if cft > current_fs_precise_time
                        current_fs_precise_time = cft
                   write_sequnlock()
                return timestamp

  - nfsd xdr response routine does
             ts = inode->i_mtime
             if (S_ISDIR(inode->i_mode))
                ts = get_precise_time(ts)
             xdr_encode_timespec(ts)


get_precise_time() probably needs a bit more subtlety to handle different
s_time_gran values and possible races, but I think it is fairly close.

Then if we ever had an xstat or similar that could ask for precise
timestamps, it just makes a similar call to get_precise_time.
Also if we added code later to use a hires timer on hardware where it was
efficient, get_precise_time could test for that and become a no-op

Yes, I should probably turn this into a patch ... maybe another day.

NeilBrown

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-19  0:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-13 18:25 Proposal: Use hi-res clock for file timestamps Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-13 18:45 ` john stultz
2010-08-13 18:57   ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-13 19:09     ` john stultz
2010-08-13 20:53       ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-14 16:45         ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-15  1:50         ` Bret Towe
2010-08-13 19:57     ` Jim Rees
2010-08-13 20:26       ` john stultz
2010-08-13 20:52         ` Jim Rees
2010-08-17 14:54 ` Andi Kleen
2010-08-17 17:41   ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-17 18:29     ` Andi Kleen
2010-08-17 18:50       ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-17 19:04       ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-17 19:18         ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-17 19:39           ` Alan Cox
2010-08-17 19:29             ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-17 19:52               ` Alan Cox
2010-08-18  5:53               ` Neil Brown
2010-08-18 14:46                 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-18 17:32                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-18 18:15                   ` Chuck Lever
2010-08-18 23:41                     ` Neil Brown
2010-08-19  0:52                       ` Neil Brown [this message]
2010-08-19  2:08                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-19  2:44                           ` Neil Brown
2010-08-19 22:46                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-18 23:47                   ` Neil Brown
2010-08-18 17:50                 ` Andi Kleen
2010-08-18 18:54                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-18 19:25                     ` Andi Kleen
2010-08-18 19:30                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-17 19:34             ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-17 19:54               ` Alan Cox
2010-08-17 19:43                 ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-17 19:45                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-18 18:12               ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-19  1:41                 ` john stultz
2010-08-19  2:31                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-19  3:17                     ` john stultz
2010-08-19 22:53                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-18 18:20       ` David Woodhouse
2010-08-18 18:32         ` Patrick J. LoPresti
2010-08-18 18:53         ` Andi Kleen

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