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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@gmail.com>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: why are WB_SYNC_NONE COMMITs being done with FLUSH_SYNC set ?
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 07:27:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100820072757.6ae9741a@tlielax.poochiereds.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100820091904.GB20138@infradead.org>

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 05:19:04 -0400
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 07:55:53AM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > Since migration and pageout still set nonblocking for ->writepage, we
> > may keep them in the near future, until VM does not start IO on itself.
> 
> Why does pageout() and memory migration need to be even more
> non-blocking than the already non-blockig WB_SYNC_NONE writeout?
> 

Just an idle thought on this...

I think a lot of the confusion here comes from the fact that we have
sync_mode and a bunch of flags, and it's not at all clear how
filesystems are supposed to treat the union of them. There are also
possible unions of flags/sync_modes that never happen in practice. It's
not always obvious though and as filesystem implementors we have to
consider the possibility that they might occur (consider WB_SYNC_ALL +
for_background).

Perhaps a lot of this confusion could be lifted by getting rid of the
extra flags and adding new sync_mode's. Maybe something like:

WB_SYNC_ALL /* wait on everything to complete */
WB_SYNC_NONE /* don't wait on anything */
WB_SYNC_FOR_RECLAIM /* sync for reclaim */
WB_SYNC_FOR_KUPDATED /* sync by kupdate */
...etc...

That does mean that all of the filesystem specific code may need to be
touched when new modes are added and removed. I think it would be
clearer though about what you're supposed to do in ->writepages.

-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-20 11:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-19 14:15 why are WB_SYNC_NONE COMMITs being done with FLUSH_SYNC set ? Jeff Layton
2010-08-19 14:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-19 14:58   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-08-19 15:11     ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-19 15:24     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-19 19:16     ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]       ` <20100819151618.5f769dc9-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-19 19:43         ` Trond Myklebust
2010-08-20 13:23           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-30 19:22             ` Trond Myklebust
2010-08-30 23:53               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20  0:33       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20  0:53         ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-20 13:20           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-19 23:55   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20  0:02     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20  2:36       ` Sage Weil
2010-08-20  9:19     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-20 11:27       ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2010-08-20 12:44         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20 12:26       ` Wu Fengguang

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