From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] NFSD patches to support junctions
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 08:06:28 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110909120628.GJ17215@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4724D1E3-1A56-4D0A-8A3F-64A5F0C1F5FC@oracle.com>
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 09:47:50PM -0700, Chuck Lever wrote:
>
> On Sep 8, 2011, at 12:21 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 12:03:49PM -0700, Chuck Lever wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sep 8, 2011, at 11:24 AM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 01:59:46PM -0400, bfields wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, Sep 02, 2011 at 12:38:13PM -0400, Chuck Lever wrote:
> >>>>> Sometime soon we are going to have easy-to-install user space FedFS
> >>>>> components. Here are kernel patches needed to make server-side FedFS
> >>>>> support work. Please consider these for the 3.2 kernel.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The third patch introduces a potentially expensive check to see if
> >>>>> a junction has been encountered during a mountpoint lookup. An object
> >>>>> is a junction iff it has the requisite set of extended attributes.
> >>>>> However, reading an extended attribute is expensive on some file
> >>>>> systems.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To mitigate the cost of this check, junctions always have their sticky
> >>>>> bit set. The expensive extended attribute part of the junction test
> >>>>> is done only if the sticky bit is present.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Note that today junctions are directories, but someday symlinks might
> >>>>> also act as junctions (for SMB2 support). And very few files have the
> >>>>> sticky bit set. So we avoid doing a directory test here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Also, junctions ostensibly have all zero mode bits to hide their local
> >>>>> contents. I don't think the kernel needs to be concerned about the
> >>>>> permissions as long as the sticky bit is set. This allows some
> >>>>> flexibility in how junctions are represented. However, Jeff thinks
> >>>>> that having nfsd4_is_junction() also consider mode bits would make the
> >>>>> expensive part of this test still less frequent.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any thoughts about this?
> >>>>
> >>>> Hm, right, a sticky bit set on a directory is a normal thing. I thought
> >>>> Trond's original idea was to check for the sticky bit and not
> >>>> executable? Which is a pointless combination so should be very rare.
> >>>>
> >>>> On a typical system maybe directories with the sticky bit are normally
> >>>> somewhat rare, but that's a question of policy and there could be cases
> >>>> where it's common.
> >>>
> >>> Except for that and the one gripe about an error return, it looks fine
> >>> to me.
> >>
> >> Noted. I can repost these with requested fixes in a day or two.
> >>
> >>> Remind me where the corresponding userland code is?
> >>
> >> http://oss.oracle.com/projects/fedfs-utils
> >
> > I can find gitweb, but not a git url to clone from.
>
> Try
>
> git clone git://oss.oracle.com/git/cel/fedfs-utils.git
Got it, thanks!
(There should be some way to configure your gitweb installation so it
includes that.)
--b.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-09-09 12:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-09-02 16:38 [PATCH 0/3] NFSD patches to support junctions Chuck Lever
2011-09-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 1/3] NFSD: Cleanup for nfsd4_path() Chuck Lever
2011-09-08 18:20 ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-09-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 2/3] NFSD: Remove the ex_pathname field from struct svc_export Chuck Lever
2011-09-02 16:38 ` [PATCH 3/3] NFSD: Add a cache for fs_locations information Chuck Lever
2011-09-08 18:21 ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-09-08 18:59 ` Chuck Lever
2011-09-08 17:59 ` [PATCH 0/3] NFSD patches to support junctions J. Bruce Fields
2011-09-08 18:24 ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-09-08 19:03 ` Chuck Lever
2011-09-08 19:21 ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-09-09 4:47 ` Chuck Lever
2011-09-09 12:06 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
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