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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	agruen@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, dhowells@redhat.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -V7 21/26] richacl: xattr mapping functions
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:35:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111121133521.GB656@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1y5vcxxzp.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 01:28:10AM -0800, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Thanks for the cc.  After looking at the user namespace issues it looks
> like the sane thing is really to map the user namespace uids into
> appropriate uids for storing on the filesystem.  Anything else
> seems to be a lot of pain for very little gain.
> 
> If a filesystem went as far as storing string ids.  I think I would
> be happy to use different domains for different user namespaces, but
> for anything else I just don't see the point.
> 
> What it does look like to me is that at some point we will want to
> support > 32bit uids.  There are 7 billion people on the planet and we
> only have 4 billion user ids.  The biggest individual organization have
> 3 million users, which keeps us safe for now.  However my forecast is
> each user namespace is going to wind up giving each user a bunch of
> uids.  That will accelerate the point at which we find 32bit uids tight.
> How fast being generous and assigning 10k uids per user is going to get
> us into trouble I don't know. 

Yes, bigger uid's make sense to me.

But at the point when we make that transition I think updating the ACL
format will be the least of our troubles.  So I think we'll leave it
alone rather than try to guess the right type now.

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-21 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-18 15:32 [PATCH -V7 00/26] New ACL format for better NFSv4 acl interoperability Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 01/26] vfs: Indicate that the permission functions take all the MAY_* flags Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 02/26] vfs: Add hex format for MAY_* flag values Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 03/26] vfs: Pass all mask flags down to iop->check_acl Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 04/26] vfs: Add a comment to inode_permission() Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 05/26] vfs: Add generic IS_ACL() test for acl support Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 06/26] vfs: Add IS_RICHACL() test for richacl support Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 07/26] vfs: Optimize out IS_RICHACL() if CONFIG_FS_RICHACL is not defined Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 08/26] vfs: Add new file and directory create permission flags Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-19 16:42   ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-10-20  5:20     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 09/26] vfs: Add delete child and delete self " Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-19 22:09   ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-10-20  7:35     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-20  8:11       ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 10/26] vfs: Make the inode passed to inode_change_ok non-const Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 11/26] vfs: Add permission flags for setting file attributes Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 12/26] vfs: Make acl_permission_check() work for richacls Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 13/26] richacl: In-memory representation and helper functions Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 14/26] richacl: Permission mapping functions Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 15/26] richacl: Compute maximum file masks from an acl Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 16/26] richacl: Update the file masks in chmod() Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 17/26] richacl: Permission check algorithm Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 18/26] richacl: Create-time inheritance Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 19/26] richacl: Check if an acl is equivalent to a file mode Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 20/26] richacl: Automatic Inheritance Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 21/26] richacl: xattr mapping functions Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-19 22:20   ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-10-20  8:30     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-20  9:14       ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-10-20  9:19         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-10-20 10:25           ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-10-20 23:46             ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2011-10-21  0:45               ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-10-21  9:40               ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-21 10:52                 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2011-10-21 13:12                   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-21 23:58                     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2011-10-20 11:02           ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-20 17:49             ` J. Bruce Fields
2011-10-20 19:49               ` Andreas Dilger
2011-11-19  9:35                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-11-19  9:28               ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-11-21 13:35                 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 22/26] vfs: Cache richacl in struct inode Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 23/26] vfs: Add richacl permission check Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:32 ` [PATCH -V7 24/26] ext4: Use IS_POSIXACL() to check for POSIX ACL support Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:33 ` [PATCH -V7 25/26] ext4: Implement rich acl for ext4 Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 18:41   ` Andreas Dilger
2011-10-19  5:43     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 15:33 ` [PATCH -V7 26/26] ext4: Add Ext4 compat richacl feature flag Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-18 16:17 ` [PATCH -V7 00/26] New ACL format for better NFSv4 acl interoperability Shea Levy
2011-10-19  5:54   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2011-10-19 22:21 ` J. Bruce Fields

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