From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/6] nfsd: overhaul the client name tracking code
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 08:11:17 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120125131116.GA17873@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120125064158.4551a012@tlielax.poochiereds.net>
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 06:41:58AM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:08:55 -0500
> "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 03:01:01PM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > This is the fourth iteration of this patchset. I had originally asked
> > > Bruce to take the last one for 3.3, but decided at the last minute to
> > > wait on it a bit. I knew there would be some changes needed in the
> > > upcall, so by waiting we can avoid needing to deal with those in code
> > > that has already shipped. I would like to see this patchset considered
> > > for 3.4 however.
> > >
> > > The previous patchset can be viewed here. That set also contains a
> > > more comprehensive description of the rationale for this:
> > >
> > > http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-nfs/msg26324.html
> > >
> > > There have been a number of significant changes since the last set:
> > >
> > > - the remove/expire upcall is now gone. In a clustered environment, the
> > > records would need to be refcounted in order to handle that properly. That
> > > becomes a sticky problem when you could have nodes rebooting. We don't
> > > really need to remove these records individually however. Cleaning them
> > > out only when the grace period ends should be sufficient.
> >
> > I don't think so:
> >
> > 1. Client establishes state with server.
> > 2. Network goes down.
> > 3. A lease period passes without the client being able to renew.
> > The server expires the client and grants conflicting locks to
> > other clients.
> > 3. Server reboots.
> > 4. Network comes back up.
> >
> > At this point, the client sees that the server has rebooted and is in
> > its grace period, and reclaims. Ooops.
> >
> > The server needs to be able to tell the client "nope, you're not allowed
> > to reclaim any more" at this point.
> >
> > So we need some sort of remove/expire upcall.
> >
>
> Doh! I don't know what I was thinking -- you're correct and we do need
> that.
>
> Ok, I'll see about putting it back and will resend. That does make it
> rather nasty to handle clients mounting from multiple nodes in the same
> cluster though. We'll need to come up with a data model that allows for
> that as well.
Honestly, in the v4-based migration case if one client can hold state on
mulitple nodes, and could (could it?) after reboot decide to reclaim
state on a different node from the one it previously held the same state
on--I'm not even clear what *should* happen, or if the protocol is
really adequate for that case.
--b.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-25 13:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-01-23 20:01 [PATCH v4 0/6] nfsd: overhaul the client name tracking code Jeff Layton
2012-01-23 20:01 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] nfsd: add nfsd4_client_tracking_ops struct and a way to set it Jeff Layton
2012-01-23 20:01 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] sunrpc: create nfsd dir in rpc_pipefs Jeff Layton
2012-01-23 20:01 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] nfsd: convert nfs4_client->cl_cb_flags to a generic flags field Jeff Layton
2012-01-23 20:01 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] nfsd: add a header describing upcall to nfsdcld Jeff Layton
2012-01-23 20:01 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] nfsd: add the infrastructure to handle the cld upcall Jeff Layton
2012-01-23 20:01 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] nfsd: get boot generation number from upcall instead of boot_time Jeff Layton
2012-01-24 23:08 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] nfsd: overhaul the client name tracking code J. Bruce Fields
2012-01-24 23:11 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-01-25 11:41 ` Jeff Layton
2012-01-25 13:11 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2012-01-25 13:38 ` Jeff Layton
2012-01-25 16:47 ` Chuck Lever
2012-01-25 17:14 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-01-25 17:41 ` Chuck Lever
2012-01-25 18:55 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-01-25 20:23 ` Jeff Layton
2012-01-25 21:25 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-01-25 21:29 ` Chuck Lever
2012-01-25 21:54 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-01-25 21:55 ` Chuck Lever
2012-01-25 22:11 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-01-27 15:43 ` Jeff Layton
2012-01-25 20:29 ` Chuck Lever
2012-01-25 20:53 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-01-25 21:08 ` Chuck Lever
2012-01-25 19:08 ` Jeff Layton
2012-01-24 23:10 ` J. Bruce Fields
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