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From: "bfields@fieldses.org" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Stanislav Kinsbursky <skinsbursky@parallels.com>
Cc: "Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>,
	"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Grace period
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 09:39:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120410133913.GF18465@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F8411CC.2070105@parallels.com>

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 02:56:12PM +0400, Stanislav Kinsbursky wrote:
> 09.04.2012 22:11, bfields@fieldses.org пишет:
> >Since NFSv4 doesn't have a separate MOUNT protocol, clients need to be
> >able to do readdir's and lookups to get to exported filesystems.  We
> >support this in the Linux server by exporting all the filesystems from
> >"/" on down that must be traversed to reach a given filesystem.  These
> >exports are very restricted (e.g. only parents of exports are visible).
> >
> 
> Ok, thanks for explanation.
> So, this pseudoroot looks like a part of NFS server internal
> implementation, but not a part of a standard. That's good.
> 
> >>Why does it prevents implementing of check for "superblock-network
> >>namespace" pair on NFS server start and forbid (?) it in case of
> >>this pair is shared already in other namespace? I.e. maybe this
> >>pseudoroot can be an exclusion from this rule?
> >
> >That might work.  It's read-only and consists only of directories, so
> >the grace period doesn't affect it.
> >
> 
> I've just realized, that this per-sb grace period won't work.
> I.e., it's a valid situation, when two or more containers located on
> the same filesystem, but shares different parts of it. And there is
> not conflict here at all.

Well, there may be some conflict in that a file could be hardlinked into
both subtrees, and that file could be locked from users of either
export.

--b.

> I don't see any clear and simple way how to handle such races,
> because otherwise we have to tie network namespace and filesystem
> namespace.
> I.e. there will be required some way to define, was passed export
> directory shared already somewhere else or not.
> 
> Realistic solution - since export check should be done in initial
> file system environment (most probably container will have it's own
> root), then we to pass this data to some kernel thread/userspace
> daemon in initial file system environment somehow (sockets doesn't
> suits here... Shared memory?).
> 
> Improbable solution - patching VFS layer...
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Stanislav Kinsbursky

  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-10 13:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4F7F230A.6080506@parallels.com>
     [not found] ` <20120406234039.GA20940@fieldses.org>
2012-04-09 11:24   ` Grace period Stanislav Kinsbursky
2012-04-09 13:47     ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-09 14:25       ` Stanislav Kinsbursky
2012-04-09 15:27         ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-09 16:08           ` Stanislav Kinsbursky
2012-04-09 16:11             ` bfields
2012-04-09 16:17               ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-09 16:21                 ` bfields
2012-04-09 16:33                   ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-04-09 16:39                     ` bfields
2012-04-09 16:56                     ` Stanislav Kinsbursky
2012-04-09 18:11                       ` bfields
2012-04-10 10:56                         ` Stanislav Kinsbursky
2012-04-10 13:39                           ` bfields [this message]
2012-04-10 15:36                             ` Stanislav Kinsbursky
2012-04-10 18:28                               ` Jeff Layton
2012-04-10 20:46                                 ` bfields
2012-04-11 10:08                                 ` Stanislav Kinsbursky
2012-04-09 23:26     ` bfields
2012-04-10 11:29       ` Stanislav Kinsbursky
2012-04-10 13:37         ` bfields
2012-04-10 14:10           ` Stanislav Kinsbursky
2012-04-10 14:18             ` bfields
2016-06-14 21:25 [PATCH] NFS: Don't let readdirplus revalidate an inode that was marked as stale Trond Myklebust
2016-06-30 21:46 ` grace period Marc Eshel
2016-07-01 16:08   ` Bruce Fields
2016-07-01 17:31     ` Marc Eshel
2016-07-01 20:07       ` Bruce Fields
2016-07-01 20:24         ` Marc Eshel
2016-07-01 20:47           ` Bruce Fields
2016-07-01 20:46         ` Marc Eshel
2016-07-01 21:01           ` Bruce Fields
2016-07-01 22:42             ` Marc Eshel
2016-07-02  0:58               ` Bruce Fields
2016-07-03  5:30                 ` Marc Eshel
2016-07-05 20:51                   ` Bruce Fields
2016-07-05 23:05                     ` Marc Eshel
2016-07-06  0:38                       ` Bruce Fields
     [not found]         ` <OF5D486F02.62CECB7B-ON88257FE3.0071DBE5-88257FE3.00722318@LocalDomain>
2016-07-01 20:51           ` Marc Eshel

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