From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Steve Dickson <steved@redhat.com>, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] gssd: base the size of the fd array on the RLIMIT_NOFILE limit.
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 14:21:57 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121213192157.GB31011@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121213170322.477c10fd@notabene.brown>
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 05:03:22PM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:16:33 -0500 "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 11:02:28AM +1100, NeilBrown wrote:
> > > On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 11:30:51 +1100 NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 08:10:55 -0500 "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 12:11:23PM +1100, Neil Brown wrote:
> > > > > > We have previously raised the size of the 'pollarray' once (32 -> 256)
> > > > > > and I have had another request to make it bigger.
> > > > > > Rather than changing the hard-coded value, make it depend on
> > > > > > RLIMIT_NOFILE. This is an upper limit on the size of the array
> > > > > > that can be passed to poll() anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds like a good idea.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just out of curiosity: how does it fail? I guess mounts just start
> > > > > failing at some point--how do people find the workaround?
> > > >
> > > > Error seems to be
> > > >
> > > > rpcsec_gss: gss_init_sec_context: (major) Miscellaneous failure - (minor) Cannot contact any KDC for requested realm
> > > >
> > > > in rpc.gssd logs.
> > > >
> > > > I guess people could read the source to find the work around .... not ideal
> > > > though. I guess we should get gssd to generate some more helpful message.
> > > >
> > > > The seem to be further problems that the customer is experiencing so I might
> > > > wait until they are completely resolved to ensure I have complete
> > > > understanding before I propose a further patch.
> > >
> > > The "further problem" was that krb5 libraries use select() in a way that does
> > > not support file descriptors higher than 1024. This is fixed in the latest
> > > krb5 so that is no longer an issue.
> > >
> > > I've been thinking about your question, and about how best to deliver a fix
> > > to customers, and I really think it should all "just work".
> > > i.e. the array that gssd should be sized dynamically and RLIMIT_NOFILE should
> > > be increased as needed.
> >
> > Neat-o.
> >
> > > I haven't tested this, but what do people think? I don't have a problem
> > > changing the rlim_cur limit like this, but I wonder if it is OK to
> > > dynamically set rlim_max.
> >
> > What would be the concern, that we'd be depriving an admin of the
> > ability to set a limit?
>
> My concern in that automagically raising a so-called "hard limit" seems to be
> subverting the very concept of it being a "limit".
>
> >
> > We could instead set only the current limit and set set the max to an
> > admin-configurable quantity (default very large) when we start gssd.
>
> I really want to avoid any configuration.
Well, the init scripts (or whatever we use these days) would need to be
modified to set the max to RLIMIT_INFINITY by default, but the admin
shouldn't ever have to do anything.
But honestly I can't see any practical advantage to that, so...
> The number of fds that will be used is directly connected to the number of
> concurrent mounts - as there is no limit on those (I assume), I guess it is
> fair that there is no limit on fds used by gssd.
>
> >
> > But that sounds more complicated, and off hand I can't think of a reason
> > an admin would want to do that.
>
> OK, let's just modify the hard limit dynamically ...
... fine by me.
> though I'm about to
> disappear for summer holidays so I doubt you'll see anything for some weeks.
"Summer holidays", huh.
Enjoy!
--b.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-12-13 19:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-11-28 1:11 [PATCH 0/3] Make size of gssd_proc fd array a little more dynamic Neil Brown
2012-11-28 1:11 ` [PATCH 2/3] gssd_proc: remove pointless test against FD_ALLOC_BLOCK in process_pipedir Neil Brown
2012-11-28 1:11 ` [PATCH 1/3] gssd_proc: use pollsize, not FD_ALLOC_BLOCK, in get_poll_index() Neil Brown
2012-11-28 1:11 ` [PATCH 3/3] gssd: base the size of the fd array on the RLIMIT_NOFILE limit Neil Brown
2012-11-28 13:10 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-11-29 0:30 ` NeilBrown
2012-12-11 0:02 ` NeilBrown
2012-12-11 16:16 ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-12-13 6:03 ` NeilBrown
2012-12-13 19:21 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2012-11-28 19:54 ` [PATCH 0/3] Make size of gssd_proc fd array a little more dynamic Steve Dickson
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