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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
To: "Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Cc: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	Ricky Ng-Adam <rngadam@lophilo.com>,
	"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"neilb@suse.de" <neilb@suse.de>
Subject: Re: WARNING: at linux/fs/inode.c:280 drop_nlink
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 22:06:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121213220636.4c70ec28@corrin.poochiereds.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FA345DA4F4AE44899BD2B03EEEC2FA91192CBB6@SACEXCMBX04-PRD.hq.netapp.com>

On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 21:22:26 +0000
"Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 2012-12-13 at 21:07 +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 02:45:18PM +0000, Myklebust, Trond wrote:
> > 
> > > You mean aside from the fact that sb->s_remove_count remains a racy
> > > piece of crap that serves no good purpose for NFS, and yet will continue
> > > to give us grief?
> > 
> > As opposed to scanning the list of opened files?
> 
> For what information? sb->s_remove_count tells you nothing new about the
> state of the NFS filesystem.
> 
> This whole "check for nlink == 0" thing is at best a heuristic, since
> the file may persist or disappear on the server independently of
> whatever we may think about the value of inode->i_nlink. Setting sirens
> to blare and angels to sing when we get it wrong (as we often do) is
> just pointless...
> 

So...why do drop_nlink at all in NFS (or other similar filesystems like
CIFS)? In principle, it seems like we ought to just mark the attribute
cache invalid and assume that we'll pick up the nlink change when we
next attempt to revalidate the inode.

On that next attempt, we might find it stale, but that's something we
already have to deal with.

-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-14  3:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-27 12:19 WARNING: at linux/fs/inode.c:280 drop_nlink Ricky Ng-Adam
2012-11-12 14:52 ` Jeff Layton
2012-12-13 11:31   ` Jeff Layton
2012-12-13 14:45     ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-12-13 21:07       ` Al Viro
2012-12-13 21:22         ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-12-14  3:06           ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2012-12-14  3:22             ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-12-14 12:51               ` Jeff Layton
2012-12-14 18:22                 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-12-17 13:08                   ` Jeff Layton
2012-12-17 15:14                     ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-12-17 15:23                       ` Jeff Layton
2012-12-14 21:53                 ` [PATCH 1/2] NFS: Ensure that we always drop inodes that have been marked as stale Trond Myklebust
2012-12-14 21:53                   ` [PATCH 2/2] NFS: Fix calls to drop_nlink() Trond Myklebust
2012-12-17 12:47                   ` [PATCH 1/2] NFS: Ensure that we always drop inodes that have been marked as stale Jeff Layton

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