From: Ben Myers <bpm@sgi.com>
To: Jim Rees <rees@umich.edu>
Cc: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@citi.umich.edu>,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: sunrpc: socket buffer size tuneable
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:29:35 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130125192935.GA32470@sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130125191620.GA12925@umich.edu>
Hey Bruce & Jim & Olga,
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 02:16:20PM -0500, Jim Rees wrote:
> J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 06:59:30PM -0600, Ben Myers wrote:
> > At 1020 threads the send buffer size wraps and becomes negative causing
> > the nfs server to grind to a halt. Rather than setting bufsize based
> > upon the number of nfsd threads, make the buffer sizes tuneable via
> > module parameters.
> >
> > Set the buffer sizes in terms of the number of rpcs you want to fit into
> > the buffer.
>
> From private communication, my understanding is that the original
> problem here was due to memory pressure forcing the tcp send buffer size
> below the size required to hold a single rpc.
Years ago I did see wrapping of the buffer size when tcp was used with many
threads. Today's problem is timeouts on a cluster with a heavy read
workload... and I seem to remember seeing that the send buffer size was too
small.
> In which case the important variable here is lock_bufsize, as that's
> what prevents the buffer size from going too low.
I tested removing the lock of bufsize and did hit the timeouts, so the overflow
is starting to look less relevant. I will test your minimal overflow fix to
see if this is the case.
> Cc'ing Jim Rees in case he remembers: I seem to recall discussing this
> possibility, wondering whether we needed a special interface to the
> network layer allowing us to set a minimum, and deciding it wasn't
> really necessary at the time as we didn't think the network layer would
> actually do this. Is that right? In which case either we were wrong,
> or something changed.
>
> I do remember discussing this. My memory is that we needed it but no one
> wanted to implement it and it never happened. But I could be
> mis-remembering. Maybe ask Olga, she's the one who put the bufsize
> autotuning patch in, commit 96604398.
>
> I'll go back through my old mail and see if I can figure out what happened
> with this.
Thanks,
Ben
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-01-25 19:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-01-25 0:59 sunrpc: socket buffer size tuneable Ben Myers
2013-01-25 18:45 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-01-25 19:10 ` Ben Myers
2013-01-25 18:57 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-01-25 19:16 ` Jim Rees
2013-01-25 19:29 ` Ben Myers [this message]
2013-01-25 20:21 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-01-25 20:35 ` Ben Myers
2013-01-25 21:12 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-01-25 21:21 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-01-25 21:29 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-01-25 21:35 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-01-25 21:45 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-01-25 21:57 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-01-25 22:02 ` Ben Myers
2013-01-25 22:20 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-01-25 22:34 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-01-25 23:00 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-01-25 20:35 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-01-25 20:51 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-01-25 21:13 ` Ben Myers
2013-01-25 21:02 ` J. Bruce Fields
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