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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Anand Avati <anand.avati@gmail.com>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Bernd Schubert <bernd.schubert@itwm.fraunhofer.de>,
	sandeen@redhat.com, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, gluster-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Gluster-devel] regressions due to 64-bit ext4 directory cookies
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:10:02 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130214061002.GM26694@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130213222052.GD5938@thunk.org>

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 05:20:52PM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> Telldir() and seekdir() are basically implementation horrors for any
> file system that is using anything other than a simple array of
> directory entries ala the V7 Unix file system or the BSD FFS.  For any
> file system which is using a more advanced data structure, like
> b-trees hash trees, etc, there **can't** possibly be a "offset" into a
> readdir stream. 

I'll just point you to this:

http://marc.info/?l=linux-ext4&m=136081996316453&w=2

so you can see that XFS implements what you say can't possibly be
done. ;)

FWIW, that post only talked about the data segment. I didn't mention
that XFS has 2 other segments in the directory file (both beyond
EOF) for the directory data indexes. One contains the name-hash btree
index used for name based lookups and the other contains a freespace
index for tracking free space in the data segment.

IOWs persistent, deterministic, low cost telldir/seekdir behaviour
was a problem solved in the 1990s. :)

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-02-14  6:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20130212202841.GC10267@fieldses.org>
     [not found] ` <20130213040003.GB2614@thunk.org>
     [not found]   ` <20130213133131.GE14195@fieldses.org>
     [not found]     ` <20130213151455.GB17431@thunk.org>
     [not found]       ` <20130213151953.GJ14195@fieldses.org>
     [not found]         ` <20130213153654.GC17431@thunk.org>
2013-02-13 16:20           ` regressions due to 64-bit ext4 directory cookies J. Bruce Fields
2013-02-13 16:43             ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-02-13 21:33               ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-02-14  3:59                 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-02-14  5:45                   ` Dave Chinner
2013-02-13 21:21             ` Anand Avati
2013-02-13 22:20               ` [Gluster-devel] " Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-13 22:41                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-02-13 22:47                   ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]                     ` <20130213224720.GE5938-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-13 22:57                       ` Anand Avati
2013-02-13 23:05                         ` [Gluster-devel] " J. Bruce Fields
2013-02-13 23:44                           ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]                             ` <20130213234430.GF5938-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-14  0:05                               ` Anand Avati
2013-02-14 21:47                                 ` [Gluster-devel] " J. Bruce Fields
2013-03-26 15:23                                 ` Bernd Schubert
2013-03-26 15:48                                   ` Eric Sandeen
2013-03-28 14:07                                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-03-28 16:26                                       ` Eric Sandeen
2013-03-28 17:52                                       ` Zach Brown
     [not found]                                         ` <20130328175205.GD16651-fypN+1c5dIyjpB87vu3CluTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-28 18:05                                           ` Anand Avati
2013-03-28 18:31                                             ` [Gluster-devel] " J. Bruce Fields
2013-03-28 18:49                                               ` Anand Avati
2013-03-28 19:43                                                 ` [Gluster-devel] " Jeff Darcy
2013-03-28 22:14                                                   ` Anand Avati
     [not found]                                                     ` <CAFboF2xkvXx9YFYxBXupwg=s=3MaeQYm2KK2m8MFtEBPsxwQ7Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-28 22:20                                                       ` Anand Avati
2013-02-14 21:46                             ` [Gluster-devel] " J. Bruce Fields
2013-02-14  6:10                 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2013-02-14 22:01                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-02-15  2:27                     ` Dave Chinner

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