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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
To: "Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Cc: Larry Keegan <lk@pfw.demon.co.uk>,
	"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: nfs client: Now you see it, now you don't (aka spurious ESTALE errors)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 10:33:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130725103359.7a0c44f8@corrin.poochiereds.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1374762269.3868.6.camel@leira.trondhjem.org>

On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:24:30 +0000
"Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 2013-07-25 at 10:11 -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> 
> > What might be helpful is to do some network captures when the problem
> > occurs. What we want to know is whether the ESTALE errors are coming
> > from the server, or if the client is generating them. That'll narrow
> > down where we need to look for problems.
> 
> Hmm... Shouldn't ESTALE always be repackaged as ENOENT by the VFS, now
> that your patchset has gone upstream, Jeff?
> 

I don't think so...

On something path-based then that might make sense (or maybe we should
declare a new ERACE error like Al once suggested and return that). If
you're doing a write() on a fd that you previously opened but the inode
has disappeared on the server, then -ESTALE clearly seems valid.

There are other problematic cases too...

Suppose I do stat(".", ...); ? Does an -ENOENT error make sense at that point?

Also, since we only retry once on an ESTALE error, returning that is a
pretty clear indicator that you raced with some other metadata
operations. ENOENT is not as informative...

-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-25 14:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-25 13:45 nfs client: Now you see it, now you don't Larry Keegan
2013-07-25 14:11 ` nfs client: Now you see it, now you don't (aka spurious ESTALE errors) Jeff Layton
2013-07-25 14:24   ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-07-25 14:33     ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2013-07-25 14:41       ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-07-25 17:05   ` Larry Keegan
2013-07-25 18:18     ` Jeff Layton
2013-07-26 12:41       ` Larry Keegan
2013-07-26 13:12         ` Jeff Layton
2013-07-26 15:02           ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-07-26 22:25             ` Larry Keegan
2013-07-31 14:03               ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-07-31 19:50                 ` Larry Keegan
2013-07-31 20:35                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-07-26 16:10           ` Larry Keegan
2013-07-26 14:59     ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-07-26 23:21       ` Larry Keegan
2013-08-06 11:02         ` Larry Keegan
2013-08-06 11:14           ` Jeff Layton
2013-08-06 13:34             ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-08-06 15:38               ` Larry Keegan
2013-08-19 21:16       ` Bruce Guenter

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