From: "J.Bruce Fields" <bfields@citi.umich.edu>
To: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Ben Myers <bpm@sgi.com>, Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@citi.umich.edu>,
NFS <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] NFSD/sunrpc: avoid deadlock on TCP connection due to memory pressure.
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 10:19:16 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130726141916.GA30651@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130726063303.0d1495b3@notabene.brown>
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 06:33:03AM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:18:05 -0400 "J.Bruce Fields" <bfields@citi.umich.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:30:23AM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> > >
> > > Since we enabled auto-tuning for sunrpc TCP connections we do not
> > > guarantee that there is enough write-space on each connection to
> > > queue a reply.
...
> > This is great, thanks!
> >
> > Inclined to queue it up for 3.11 and stable....
>
> I'd agree for 3.11.
> It feels a bit border-line for stable. "dead-lock" and "has been seen in the
> wild" are technically enough justification...
> I'd probably mark it as "pleas don't apply to -stable until 3.11 is released"
> or something like that, just for a bit of breathing space.
> Your call though.
So my takeaway from http://lwn.net/Articles/559113/ was that Linus and
Greg were requesting that:
- criteria for -stable and late -rc's should really be about the
same, and
- people should follow Documentation/stable-kernel-rules.txt.
So as an exercise to remind me what those rules are:
Easy questions:
- "no bigger than 100 lines, with context." Check.
- "It must fix only one thing." Check.
- "real bug that bothers people". Check.
- "tested": yep. It doesn't actually say "tested on stable
trees", and I recall this did land you with a tricky bug one
time when a prerequisite was omitted from the backport.
Judgement calls:
- "obviously correct": it's short, but admittedly subtle, and
performance regressions can take a while to get sorted out.
- "It must fix a problem that causes a build error (but not for
things marked CONFIG_BROKEN), an oops, a hang, data
corruption, a real security issue, or some "oh, that's not
good" issue. In short, something critical." We could argue
that "server stops responding" is critical, though not to the
same degree as a panic.
- OR: alternatively: "Serious issues as reported by a user of a
distribution kernel may also be considered if they fix a
notable performance or interactivity issue." The only bz I've
personally seen was the result of artificial testing of some
kind, and it sounds like your case involved a disk failure?
--b.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-07-26 14:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20130710092255.0240a36d@notabene.brown>
2013-07-10 2:27 ` Is tcp autotuning really what NFS wants? J.Bruce Fields
2013-07-10 4:32 ` NeilBrown
2013-07-10 19:07 ` J.Bruce Fields
2013-07-15 4:32 ` NeilBrown
2013-07-16 1:58 ` J.Bruce Fields
2013-07-16 4:00 ` NeilBrown
2013-07-16 14:24 ` J.Bruce Fields
2013-07-18 0:03 ` Ben Myers
2013-07-24 21:07 ` J.Bruce Fields
2013-07-25 1:30 ` [PATCH] NFSD/sunrpc: avoid deadlock on TCP connection due to memory pressure NeilBrown
2013-07-25 12:35 ` Jim Rees
2013-07-25 20:18 ` J.Bruce Fields
2013-07-25 20:33 ` NeilBrown
2013-07-26 14:19 ` J.Bruce Fields [this message]
2013-07-30 2:48 ` NeilBrown
2013-08-01 2:49 ` J.Bruce Fields
2013-07-10 17:33 ` Is tcp autotuning really what NFS wants? Dean
2013-07-10 17:39 ` Ben Greear
2013-07-15 4:35 ` NeilBrown
2013-07-15 23:32 ` Ben Greear
2013-07-16 4:46 ` NeilBrown
2013-07-10 19:59 ` Michael Richardson
2013-07-15 1:26 ` Jim Rees
2013-07-15 5:02 ` NeilBrown
2013-07-15 11:57 ` Jim Rees
2013-07-15 13:42 ` Jim Rees
2013-07-16 1:10 ` NeilBrown
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