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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
	Anand Avati <avati@redhat.com>, Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <aviro@redhat.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>,
	Linux NFS list <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [REPOST] fuse: drop dentry on failed revalidate
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 12:58:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130802125826.5cf53a4d@tlielax.poochiereds.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJfpegthEZJEQhus=4CnvR+yb+vGj5c85kUnn18SrR0S1wbbtQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 2 Aug 2013 16:30:23 +0200
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Ok, took me a couple of times to look over the code but I think I
> > understand the problem now...
> >
> > IIUC, then this patch should only ever cause this to return -ENOENT in
> > a situation similar to the one in Anand's reproducer, right? The
> > mountpoint-to-be was unlinked in another tree, and thus we found it to
> > be invalid in the tree that we're mounting in. If so, then the dentry
> > didn't exist at some point during the race window. Returning -ENOENT
> > seems reasonable to me in that situation.
> 
> Yes, that's one part of it and ENOENT fits perfectly.
> 
> The other part is when the subtree is moved on another host.  Yes, NFS
> can reconnect it, but only if it is accessed through the new location.
>  Until then it will be inaccessible and the new location of the
> mountpoint not discoverable through /proc/mounts or in any way without
> outside knowledge.
> 
> And there was a pre-existing mount under the moved directory we don't
> allow the d_drop in this "move" case either, and the mount is
> accessible through the old name.  I seem to recall that there was a
> discussion about this back then and Linus was quite adamant about
> mountpoints not being allowed to be dissolved or moved without an
> explicit action on the localhost (i.e. something that happens on
> remote hosts shouldn't affect the status or location of mounts on the
> localhost).
> 
> So what happens in this case:
> 
> host1: cd /nfs/foo/bar
> host2: mv /nfs/foo /nfs/old-foo
> host2: mkdir /nfs/foo
> host1: ls /nfs/foo  [drops "old-foo" and adds a new foo dentry]
> host1: mkdir bin [cwd is now not accessible from root]
> host1: mount --bind /bin ./bin [???]
> 
> Currently that last one succeeds, with my patch it gives ENOENT, but
> that's not the best error, since the mountpoint does exist.
> 

Ok, good point...

That's a tricky situation. We're rejecting the mount there because we
can't _currently_ reach the mountpoint from root. It could become
reachable later though, at which point you could mount on there just
fine...

It almost sounds like it could use a new error code (EUNREACH?). Or,
maybe you could repurpose ENOLINK?

In any case, I'd be inclined not to worry about it and just go with
-ENOENT there. If someone complains we could consider a new error for
that case later.

-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>

      reply	other threads:[~2013-08-02 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]       ` <20130801163940.GA1356@tucsk.piliscsaba.szeredi.hu>
2013-08-01 18:45         ` [PATCH] [REPOST] fuse: drop dentry on failed revalidate Ric Wheeler
2013-08-02  9:02           ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-08-02 11:43             ` Jeff Layton
2013-08-02 14:30               ` Miklos Szeredi
2013-08-02 16:58                 ` Jeff Layton [this message]

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