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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
To: "Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>
Cc: Quentin Barnes <qbarnes@gmail.com>,
	"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: nfs-backed mmap file results in 1000s of WRITEs per second
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:04:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130906110429.48000442@corrin.poochiereds.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1378479655.3332.3.camel@leira.trondhjem.org>

On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 15:00:56 +0000
"Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 2013-09-06 at 09:36 -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 17:34:20 -0500
> > Quentin Barnes <qbarnes@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 09:57:24PM +0000, Myklebust, Trond wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2013-09-05 at 16:36 -0500, Quentin Barnes wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 08:02:01PM +0000, Myklebust, Trond wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, 2013-09-05 at 14:11 -0500, Quentin Barnes wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 12:03:03PM -0500, Malahal Naineni wrote:
> > > > > > > > Neil Brown posted a patch couple days ago for this!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.nfs/58473
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I tried Neil's patch on a v3.11 kernel.  The rebuilt kernel still
> > > > > > > exhibited the same 1000s of WRITEs/sec problem.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Any other ideas?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yes. Please try the attached patch.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Great!  That did the trick!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Do you feel this patch could be worthy of pushing it upstream in its
> > > > > current state or was it just to verify a theory?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > In comparing the nfs_flush_incompatible() implementations between
> > > > > RHEL5 and v3.11 (without your patch), the guts of the algorithm seem
> > > > > more or less logically equivalent to me on whether or not to flush
> > > > > the page.  Also, when and where nfs_flush_incompatible() is invoked
> > > > > seems the same.  Would you provide a very brief pointer to clue me
> > > > > in as to why this problem didn't also manifest circa 2.6.18 days?
> > > > 
> > > > There was no nfs_vm_page_mkwrite() to handle page faults in the 2.6.18
> > > > days, and so the risk was that your mmapped writes could end up being
> > > > sent with the wrong credentials.
> > > 
> > > Ah!  You're right that nfs_vm_page_mkwrite() was missing from
> > > the original 2.6.18, so that makes sense, however, Red Hat had
> > > backported that function starting with their RHEL5.9(*) kernels,
> > > yet the problem doesn't manifest on RHEL5.9.  Maybe the answer lies
> > > somewhere in RHEL5.9's do_wp_page(), or up that call path, but
> > > glancing through it, it all looks pretty close though.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > (*) That was the source I using when comparing with the 3.11 source
> > > when studying your patch since it was the last kernel known to me
> > > without the problem.
> > > 
> > 
> > I'm pretty sure RHEL5 has a similar problem, but it's unclear to me why
> > you're not seeing it there. I have a RHBZ open vs. RHEL5 but it's marked
> > private at the moment (I'll see about opening it up). I brought this up
> > upstream about a year ago with this strawman patch:
> > 
> >     http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.nfs/51240
> > 
> > ...at the time Trond said he was working on a set of patches to track
> > the open/lock stateid on a per-req basis. Did that approach not pan
> > out?
> 
> We've achieved what we wanted to do (Neil's lock recovery patch) without
> that machinery, so for now, we're dropping that.
> 
> > Also, do you need to do a similar fix to nfs_can_coalesce_requests?
> 
> Yes. Good point!
> 

Cool. FWIW, here's the original bug that was opened against RHEL5:

    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=736578

...the reproducer that Max cooked up is not doing mmapped I/O so there
may be a difference there, but I haven't looked closely at why that is.

-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-06 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-05 16:21 nfs-backed mmap file results in 1000s of WRITEs per second Quentin Barnes
2013-09-05 17:03 ` Malahal Naineni
2013-09-05 19:11   ` Quentin Barnes
2013-09-05 20:02     ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-09-05 21:36       ` Quentin Barnes
2013-09-05 21:57         ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-09-05 22:34           ` Quentin Barnes
2013-09-06 13:36             ` Jeff Layton
2013-09-06 15:00               ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-09-06 15:04                 ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2013-09-06 15:39                   ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-09-08 14:25                     ` William Dauchy
2013-09-06 16:48               ` Quentin Barnes
2013-09-07 14:51                 ` Jeff Layton
2013-09-07 15:00                   ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-09-09 13:04                 ` Jeff Layton
2013-09-09 17:32                   ` Quentin Barnes
2013-09-09 17:47                     ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-09-09 18:21                       ` Jeff Layton
2013-09-05 22:07         ` Myklebust, Trond

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