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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, Andy Adamson <androsadamson@gmail.com>,
	chuck.lever@oracle.com, trond.myklebust@primarydata.com
Subject: Re: v4.0 CB_COMPOUND authentication failures
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:47:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140408144720.GF3882@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140408104145.2bd2295a@tlielax.poochiereds.net>

On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 10:41:45AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:22:00 -0400
> Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:03:33 -0400
> > "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 09:49:03AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2014 08:35:01 -0400
> > > > "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 08:21:40AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > > > > I've recently been hunting down some problems with delegation handling
> > > > > > and have run across a problem with the client authenticates CB_COMPOUND
> > > > > > requests. I could use some advice on how best to fix it.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Specifically, check_gss_callback_principal() tries to look up the
> > > > > > callback client and then tries to compare the ticket in it against the
> > > > > > clp->cl_hostname:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >         /* Expect a GSS_C_NT_HOSTBASED_NAME like "nfs@serverhostname" */
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >         if (memcmp(p, "nfs@", 4) != 0)
> > > > > >                 return 0;
> > > > > >         p += 4;
> > > > > >         if (strcmp(p, clp->cl_hostname) != 0)
> > > > > >                 return 0;
> > > > > >         return 1;
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The problem is that there is no guarantee that those hostnames will be
> > > > > > the same. If, for instance, I mount "foo:/" and the SPN is
> > > > > > "nfs/foo.bar.baz" that strcmp will return true, and the CB_COMPOUND
> > > > > > request will get tossed out [1]. Ditto if I happen to mount a CNAME of the
> > > > > > server.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It sounds like a bug to me that the mount is succeeding without the name
> > > > > matching.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The security provided by krb5 is much weaker if we don't check that the
> > > > > name provided on the commandline matches what the server authenticates
> > > > > as.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The logic in gssd for this is pretty awful.
> > > > 
> > > > It will basically trust DNS if there is no '.' in the hostname that was
> > > > used at mount time. That'll make it take the address and
> > > > reverse-resolve it.
> > > 
> > > Argh, OK, I guess this is the compromise Simo made in "Avoid DNS reverse
> > > resolution for server names (take 3)".
> > > 
> > > > We could add yet another band-aid and make it so that DNS is never
> > > > trusted. I'll note that for cifs, we took that route. You have to mount
> > > > the canonical name of the server in order to use krb5.
> > > 
> > > I wish we could do that, but I suppose it's too harsh to break
> > > already-working fstabs.  Maybe we could phase it in somehow.
> > > 
> > > > > > Now that we try to use krb5 on the callback channel even when sec=sys
> > > > > > is specified, this is very problematic.
> > > > > 
> > > > > And similarly I think the attempt to opportunistically use krb5 for
> > > > > state management should fail and fall back on auth_sys if the server's
> > > > > name doesn't match.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Like Trond pointed out, the problem is that gssd doesn't give us that
> > > > info currently. We could change it to do that of course, but that
> > > > basically means revving the downcall.
> > > 
> > > It might be easier to rev the upcall so that the kernel could ask gssd
> > > to do strict checking?  Since it's just a bunch of name=value pairs it
> > > shouldn't be a huge pain to revise.
> > > 
> > 
> > Yeah, that might work, but it will definitely break anyone who's not
> > mounting the canonical server name today.
> > 
> > OTOH, if we're going to do that, then we don't really need to rev the
> > upcall. Just fix gssd to do this strict checking by default (and maybe
> > add a command-line option to allow it to trust DNS like it does today).
> > 
> > > > > > I think that the ideal thing would be to stash the SPN that we use to
> > > > > > do the SETCLIENTID call and use that in the comparison above.
> > > > > > Unfortunately, the rpc_cred doesn't really seem to carry this info and
> > > > > > I don't see where we get enough information in the rpc.gssd downcall to
> > > > > > figure out what that SPN should be.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Anyone have thoughts or should we just remove the above check until we
> > > > > > come up with a better way to do this?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > [1]: there's another bug that can cause the client to send a bogus
> > > > > >      reply instead of dropping the request as intended, but that's
> > > > > >      relatively simple to fix.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So I believe the matching really is a requirement and that it would be
> > > > > wrong to weaken it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It sounds like there's also a server bug here if it's giving out
> > > > > delegations to a client that isn't responding to callbacks.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The server uses CB_NULL requests to probe the callback port, and those
> > > > aren't affected by this problem. Worse, since CB_NULL requests don't
> > > > even contain the callback_ident, we can't even use them to hook up the
> > > > nfs_client with the SPN used in them.
> > > 
> > > Ah, got it.
> > > 
> > > The server should still stop delegations as soon as a CB_RECALL times
> > > out, though, so at least the problem should clear up after that?
> > > 
> > > --b.
> > 
> > Yes, that seems to be what happens eventually. What I generally see is
> > that we get a set of read delegations from the server, eventually the
> > server sends a bunch of CB_RECALL requests, which are "dropped" (sort
> > of -- I have a patch to really make those be dropped). Eventually ~60s
> > later, the client returns the delegations.
> > 
> > I'm a little unclear on what eventually triggers the DELEGRETURNs --
> > maybe the server takes down the callback channel? I need to look a
> > little closer at that piece...
> > 
> 
> Ahh and FWIW...
> 
> What happens is that the RENEW gets a CB_PATH_DOWN error, and the
> client then sends back all of the delegations.

OK, great, so that part is all working as it should.

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-08 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-08 12:21 v4.0 CB_COMPOUND authentication failures Jeff Layton
2014-04-08 12:35 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-04-08 12:42   ` Trond Myklebust
2014-04-08 12:57     ` Dr Fields James Bruce
2014-04-08 13:49   ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-08 14:03     ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-04-08 14:22       ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-08 14:41         ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-08 14:47           ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2014-04-08 14:23       ` Trond Myklebust
2014-04-08 14:46         ` Dr Fields James Bruce
2014-04-08 15:04           ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-08 15:13             ` Dr Fields James Bruce
2014-04-08 17:25               ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-08 17:28                 ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-08 16:22           ` Trond Myklebust
2014-04-08 16:40             ` Dr Fields James Bruce
2014-04-08 17:30               ` Trond Myklebust
2014-04-08 17:55                 ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-08 18:03                   ` Trond Myklebust
2014-04-08 18:24                     ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-08 18:45                       ` Trond Myklebust
2014-04-08 18:49                         ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-08 18:03                   ` Dr Fields James Bruce
2014-04-08 16:44             ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-08 17:27               ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-08 17:30                 ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-08 17:39                   ` Frank Filz
2014-04-08 17:59                     ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-08 18:06                     ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-08 22:44                       ` Frank Filz
2014-04-08 22:52                         ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-08 23:31                           ` Frank Filz
2014-04-08 18:01                   ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-08 18:04                     ` Jeff Layton
2014-04-08 18:08                       ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-08 18:11                         ` Dr Fields James Bruce
2014-04-08 18:52                           ` Simo Sorce
2014-04-08 19:01                             ` Trond Myklebust

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