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From: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>,
	NFS <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Live lock in silly-rename.
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 08:13:58 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140531081358.62ae69b3@notabene.brown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140530215522.GA27615@fieldses.org>

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On Fri, 30 May 2014 17:55:23 -0400 "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
wrote:

> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 01:44:42PM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 May 2014 20:44:23 -0400 "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Yes, it's a known server bug.
> > > 
> > > As a first attempt I was thinking of just sticking a timestamp in struct
> > > inode to record the time of the most recent conflicting access and deny
> > > delegations if the timestamp is too recent, for some definition of too
> > > recent.
> > > 
> > 
> > Hmmm... I'll have a look next week and see what I can come up with.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> If we didn't think it was worth another struct inode field, we could
> probably get away with global state.  Even just refusing to give out any
> delegations for a few seconds after any delegation break would be enough
> to fix this bug.
> 
> Or you could make it a little less harsh with a small hash table: "don't
> give out a delegation on any inode whose inode number hashes to X for a
> few seconds."

I was thinking of using a bloom filter - or possibly two.
- avoid handing out delegations if either bloom filter reports a match
- when reclaiming a delegation add the inode to the second bloom filter
- every so-often zero-out the older filter and swap them.

Might be a bit of overkill, but I won't know until I implement it.

NeilBrown

> 
> As long as the delegations can be turned down at the whim of the server,
> we've got a lot of leeway.
> 
> --b.


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  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-30 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-29  6:45 Live lock in silly-rename NeilBrown
2014-05-29 16:38 ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]   ` <20140530075135.753fb7ed@notabene.brown>
2014-05-30  0:44     ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-05-30  3:44       ` NeilBrown
2014-05-30 21:55         ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-05-30 22:13           ` NeilBrown [this message]
2014-06-04  7:39             ` NeilBrown
2014-06-04 12:48               ` Trond Myklebust
2014-06-04 13:27                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-06-05  0:26                   ` NeilBrown
2014-06-05  0:40                 ` NeilBrown
2014-06-04 22:05               ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-06-05  0:34                 ` NeilBrown
2014-06-11 14:21                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-06-12  1:43                     ` NeilBrown

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