From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Dave Wysochanski <dwysocha@redhat.com>
Cc: bfields@redhat.com, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] Simplify logic in cache_listeners_exist - only return true if someone has the file open.
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 15:40:30 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140606194030.GA6129@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140604210321.GB5603@fieldses.org>
On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 05:03:38PM -0400, bfields wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 10:19:40AM -0400, Dave Wysochanski wrote:
> > The logic inside cache_listeners_exist contains heuristics to
> > determine whether there is a userspace process listening to the cache
> > file. If there is a listener, the kernel will send a request to service
> > the cache to userspace, and wait for a response.
> >
> > The logic is a bit hard to read, here's some comments which explain the
> > existing logic:
> > /*
> > * If at least one process has the channel file open currently,
> > * someone is listening
> > */
> > if (atomic_read(&detail->readers))
> > return true;
> > /*
> > * If no process has ever opened the channel file,
> > * no one is listening
> > */
> > if (detail->last_close == 0)
> > /* This cache was never opened */
> > return false;
> > /*
> > * If the last time we closed the file was more than 30 seconds
> > * ago, no one is listening.
> > */
> > if (detail->last_close < seconds_since_boot() - 30)
> > /*
> > * We allow for the possibility that someone might
> > * restart a userspace daemon without restarting the
> > * server; but after 30 seconds, we give up.
> > */
> > return false;
> > /*
> > * In all other cases, assume someone is listening
> > */
> > return true;
> >
> > The logic is unduly complicated and unfortunately can be 'fooled' into
> > thinking some userspace listener daemon exists when it does not. For
> > example, we've seen where a simple diagnostic process reading all files
> > in /proc/net/rpc (for example, tarring the files up into an archive) can
> > fool the kernel due to this logic. Once fooled, the kernel will then
> > send requests to validate the cache to userspace thinking some 'cache listener'
> > exists, and will timeout. In the case of the nfs server, this leads to
> > silently dropped NFS requests due to failing RPC authentication.
> > A simple while loop as follows is enough to DoS the NFS server indefinitely:
> > while true; do
> > cat /proc/net/rpc/auth.unix.gid/channel>/dev/null
> > sleep 3
> > done
> >
> > While a better userspace / kernel registration mechanism for cache listeners
> > would be the best solution, for now let's just simplify this logic by requiring
> > that there actually be someone holding the 'channel' file open for the kernel
> > to consider there's someone actually listening and servicing the cache.
> >
> > The only downside is that now userspace daemons which restart will be noticed
> > by the kernel during the restart, but I think this makes sense since there's
> > no guarantee the listener will come back.
>
> I think this makes sense, thanks, applying.
I'm seeing rpc bedcred errors after running python reboot recovery
errors. I haven't had the time to track down exactly what's happening
yet, but I fear it was probably introduced by this patch (maybe the F20
nfsd until files aren't starting the daemons in quite the right order?).
So I'm dropping this patch till we figure out what's going on.
--b.
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Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-06-04 14:19 [PATCH 1/1] Simplify logic in cache_listeners_exist - only return true if someone has the file open Dave Wysochanski
2014-06-04 21:03 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-06-06 19:40 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
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