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From: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
To: Trond Myklebust <trondmy@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>,
	Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Killing process in D state on mount to dead NFS server. (when process is in fsync)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 13:19:46 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140802131946.207c597c@notabene.brown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAABAsM7eh-Faaqmb9yf_xCVwi3cGpnTeOT8A4-e1jhwuEMPKWQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 22:55:42 -0400 Trond Myklebust <trondmy@gmail.com> wrote:

> > That still leaves some open questions though...
> >
> > Is that enough to fix it? You'd still have the dirty pages lingering
> > around, right? Would a umount -f presumably work at that point?
> 
> 'umount -f' will kill any outstanding RPC calls that are causing the
> mount to hang, but doesn't do anything to change page states or NFS
> file/lock states.

Should it though?

       MNT_FORCE (since Linux 2.1.116)
              Force  unmount  even  if busy.  This can cause data loss.  (Only
              for NFS mounts.)

Given that data loss is explicitly permitted, I suspect it should.

Can we make MNT_FORCE on NFS not only abort outstanding RPC calls, but
fail all subsequent RPC calls?  That might make it really useful.   You
wouldn't even need to "kill -9" then.

NeilBrown

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-02  3:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-31 18:00 Killing process in D state on mount to dead NFS server Ben Greear
2014-07-31 19:49 ` Malahal Naineni
2014-07-31 19:52   ` Ben Greear
2014-07-31 20:42 ` NeilBrown
2014-07-31 21:20   ` Ben Greear
2014-07-31 21:50     ` Killing process in D state on mount to dead NFS server. (when process is in fsync) NeilBrown
2014-08-01 12:47       ` Jan Kara
2014-08-02  1:21       ` Jeff Layton
2014-08-02  1:50         ` Roger Heflin
2014-08-02  2:07           ` Jeff Layton
2014-08-02  2:55         ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-02  3:19           ` NeilBrown [this message]
2014-08-02  3:44             ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-13 15:42     ` Killing process in D state on mount to dead NFS server Ben Greear
2014-08-13 21:18       ` NeilBrown
2014-08-13 21:22         ` Ben Greear

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