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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Boaz Harrosh <openosd@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/19] pnfs: force a layout commit when encountering busy segments during recall
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 21:18:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140824191839.GA9717@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53FA259C.9050807@gmail.com>

On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 08:49:16PM +0300, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
> I've been sitting on client RECALL bugs over a year NOW. I have you scenario
> but actually a real DEAD-LOCK instead of an annoying delay.

A sufficiently long delay is undistinguishable from a deadlock :)

> * Client is doing a LAYOUT_GET and is returned RECALL_CONFLICT
> 
>   Comment: If your server is serious about it's recalls, then all the
>   while a recall is in progress it will return RECALL_CONFLICT on any
>   segment in conflict with the RECALL.

It does.

>   In objects layout this is easy to hit, because the LAYOUT_GET itself
>   may cause the issue of the RECALL, because if the objects map grows
>   do to the current LAYOUT_GET then all clients are RECALLed including
>   the one issuing the call.

RFC5663 also requires recalls from layoutget in certain cases.  The language
in is rather vague though, and I did chose to interpret it that the client
is responsible for coherency management on it's outstanding layouts, and thus
I will only recall layouts from other clientids.  Without that utter madness
would happen with the forgetful client model that Linux uses.

>   But this can also happen when one client caused an operation that
>   sends a RECALL on our client while our client is in the middle of
>   issuing a LAYOUT_GET.

This is something I could hit a well.  Might be worth to write a reproducer
(I've been trying to play a bit with pynfs, but it still confuses the heck
out of me)

> 1. I do the pnfs_layoutcommit_inode() regrdless of busy segments because
>    if it has-nothing-to-do it returns right-away. Segments may be busy
>    because of need-to-commit but also because they are used by in-flight-IO
>    So busy segments are not an exact indication.
>    In any way we can always do pnfs_layoutcommit_inode() to kick a LAYOUTCOMMIT
>    it will never do any harm.

Sounds fine to me.

> 2. This has a performance advantage, any segments held by LAYOUTCOMMIT will
>    now be freed, and the RECALL will return success instead of forcing the
>    server to one or more RECALL rounds with ERR_DELAY.

Sounds good to me as well.

> Also with my patch I hit races in state management, because my patch waits
> for LAYOUT_COMMIT to execute synchronously from the RECALL thread, your
> patch of  asynchronous LAYOUT_COMMIT has a lower chance of hitting. But I
> think Trond might have fixed these races, as I have tested this code like
> 6 month a go.

I've been running into various stateid handling problems, of which some
could be considered races.  Look at the other patches in this series - two of
those only appeared in the second iteration as they were only causing
MDS fallbacks, but no actual data corruption.

> If you are up to it you might want to test my synchronous way and see if you like
> things better. I'm testing your code as well to see how it looks.

Can you send me a full patch?  Either against mainline or my tree is fine.

> BTW: It looks like the hch-pnfs/getdeviceinfo has some of the pnfs fixes but that
> the hch-pnfs/blocklayout-for-3.18 has newer fixes but without the getdeviceinfo
> stuff. I'm testing with the older getdeviceinfo branch.

The getdeviceinfo as of now is missing two stateid handling fixes.  It was
based on blocklayout-for-3.18 when I pushed it out, but I have since updated
blocklayout-for-3.18.  I will push out a rebased getdeviceinfo branch later
today.


  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-24 19:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <pnfs block layout driver fixes V2>
2014-08-21 16:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 01/19] nfs: cap request size to fit a kmalloced page array Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 02/19] pnfs: do not pass uninitialized lsegs to ->free_lseg Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 03/19] pnfs: force a layout commit when encountering busy segments during recall Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-24 17:49     ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-24 19:18       ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2014-08-26 14:10         ` [PATCH] pnfs: Kick a pnfs_layoutcommit_inode on recall Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 14:26           ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 14:37             ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 14:52               ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 14:55               ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 15:02                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 15:24                   ` Matt W. Benjamin
2014-08-26 15:36                     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 16:56                       ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 16:59                         ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 17:06                           ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 17:54                             ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 18:19                               ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 18:34                                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 18:41                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 19:46                                   ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-27  8:50                                     ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-27  8:22                                   ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-09-09  0:37     ` [PATCH 03/19] pnfs: force a layout commit when encountering busy segments during recall Trond Myklebust
2014-09-09  5:49       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09 14:38         ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 04/19] pnfs: don't check sequence on new stateids in layoutget Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 05/19] pnfs: retry after a bad stateid error from layoutget Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 06/19] pnfs: avoid using stale stateids after layoutreturn Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 07/19] pnfs: add flag to force read-modify-write in ->write_begin Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  3:50     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-09-09  5:53       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09 14:41         ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 08/19] pnfs: add return_range method Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-25 13:50     ` Anna Schumaker
2014-08-25 14:09       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-25 14:17         ` Anna Schumaker
2014-08-25 14:20           ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  3:57     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 09/19] pnfs: allow splicing pre-encoded pages into the layoutcommit args Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 10/19] pnfs/blocklayout: reject pnfs blocksize larger than page size Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 11/19] pnfs/blocklayout: improve GETDEVICEINFO error reporting Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 12/19] pnfs/blocklayout: plug block queues Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 13/19] pnfs/blocklayout: correctly decrement extent length Christoph Hellwig
2015-02-09  6:01     ` NeilBrown
2015-02-09 18:24       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 14/19] pnfs/blocklayout: remove read-modify-write handling in bl_write_pagelist Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  4:43     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 15/19] pnfs/blocklayout: don't set pages uptodate Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  4:48     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 16/19] pnfs/blocklayout: rewrite extent tracking Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-25 14:36     ` Anna Schumaker
2014-08-25 14:43       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-26  9:06         ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-09-09  4:50     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 17/19] pnfs/blocklayout: implement the return_range method Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  4:03     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 18/19] pnfs/blocklayout: return layouts on setattr Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  4:09     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09   ` [PATCH 19/19] pnfs/blocklayout: allocate separate pages for the layoutcommit payload Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  4:52     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:13   ` pnfs block layout driver fixes V2 Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09  4:12     ` Trond Myklebust
2014-09-09  5:54       ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09 14:40         ` Trond Myklebust

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