From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Boaz Harrosh <openosd@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/19] pnfs: force a layout commit when encountering busy segments during recall
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 21:18:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140824191839.GA9717@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53FA259C.9050807@gmail.com>
On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 08:49:16PM +0300, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
> I've been sitting on client RECALL bugs over a year NOW. I have you scenario
> but actually a real DEAD-LOCK instead of an annoying delay.
A sufficiently long delay is undistinguishable from a deadlock :)
> * Client is doing a LAYOUT_GET and is returned RECALL_CONFLICT
>
> Comment: If your server is serious about it's recalls, then all the
> while a recall is in progress it will return RECALL_CONFLICT on any
> segment in conflict with the RECALL.
It does.
> In objects layout this is easy to hit, because the LAYOUT_GET itself
> may cause the issue of the RECALL, because if the objects map grows
> do to the current LAYOUT_GET then all clients are RECALLed including
> the one issuing the call.
RFC5663 also requires recalls from layoutget in certain cases. The language
in is rather vague though, and I did chose to interpret it that the client
is responsible for coherency management on it's outstanding layouts, and thus
I will only recall layouts from other clientids. Without that utter madness
would happen with the forgetful client model that Linux uses.
> But this can also happen when one client caused an operation that
> sends a RECALL on our client while our client is in the middle of
> issuing a LAYOUT_GET.
This is something I could hit a well. Might be worth to write a reproducer
(I've been trying to play a bit with pynfs, but it still confuses the heck
out of me)
> 1. I do the pnfs_layoutcommit_inode() regrdless of busy segments because
> if it has-nothing-to-do it returns right-away. Segments may be busy
> because of need-to-commit but also because they are used by in-flight-IO
> So busy segments are not an exact indication.
> In any way we can always do pnfs_layoutcommit_inode() to kick a LAYOUTCOMMIT
> it will never do any harm.
Sounds fine to me.
> 2. This has a performance advantage, any segments held by LAYOUTCOMMIT will
> now be freed, and the RECALL will return success instead of forcing the
> server to one or more RECALL rounds with ERR_DELAY.
Sounds good to me as well.
> Also with my patch I hit races in state management, because my patch waits
> for LAYOUT_COMMIT to execute synchronously from the RECALL thread, your
> patch of asynchronous LAYOUT_COMMIT has a lower chance of hitting. But I
> think Trond might have fixed these races, as I have tested this code like
> 6 month a go.
I've been running into various stateid handling problems, of which some
could be considered races. Look at the other patches in this series - two of
those only appeared in the second iteration as they were only causing
MDS fallbacks, but no actual data corruption.
> If you are up to it you might want to test my synchronous way and see if you like
> things better. I'm testing your code as well to see how it looks.
Can you send me a full patch? Either against mainline or my tree is fine.
> BTW: It looks like the hch-pnfs/getdeviceinfo has some of the pnfs fixes but that
> the hch-pnfs/blocklayout-for-3.18 has newer fixes but without the getdeviceinfo
> stuff. I'm testing with the older getdeviceinfo branch.
The getdeviceinfo as of now is missing two stateid handling fixes. It was
based on blocklayout-for-3.18 when I pushed it out, but I have since updated
blocklayout-for-3.18. I will push out a rebased getdeviceinfo branch later
today.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-08-24 19:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <pnfs block layout driver fixes V2>
2014-08-21 16:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09 ` [PATCH 01/19] nfs: cap request size to fit a kmalloced page array Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09 ` [PATCH 02/19] pnfs: do not pass uninitialized lsegs to ->free_lseg Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09 ` [PATCH 03/19] pnfs: force a layout commit when encountering busy segments during recall Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-24 17:49 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-24 19:18 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2014-08-26 14:10 ` [PATCH] pnfs: Kick a pnfs_layoutcommit_inode on recall Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 14:26 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 14:37 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 14:52 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 14:55 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 15:02 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 15:24 ` Matt W. Benjamin
2014-08-26 15:36 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 16:56 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 16:59 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 17:06 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 17:54 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 18:19 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 18:34 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-26 18:41 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-26 19:46 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-27 8:50 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-08-27 8:22 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-09-09 0:37 ` [PATCH 03/19] pnfs: force a layout commit when encountering busy segments during recall Trond Myklebust
2014-09-09 5:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09 14:38 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09 ` [PATCH 04/19] pnfs: don't check sequence on new stateids in layoutget Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09 ` [PATCH 05/19] pnfs: retry after a bad stateid error from layoutget Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09 ` [PATCH 06/19] pnfs: avoid using stale stateids after layoutreturn Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09 ` [PATCH 07/19] pnfs: add flag to force read-modify-write in ->write_begin Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09 3:50 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-09-09 5:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09 14:41 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09 ` [PATCH 08/19] pnfs: add return_range method Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-25 13:50 ` Anna Schumaker
2014-08-25 14:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-25 14:17 ` Anna Schumaker
2014-08-25 14:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09 3:57 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09 ` [PATCH 09/19] pnfs: allow splicing pre-encoded pages into the layoutcommit args Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09 ` [PATCH 10/19] pnfs/blocklayout: reject pnfs blocksize larger than page size Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09 ` [PATCH 11/19] pnfs/blocklayout: improve GETDEVICEINFO error reporting Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09 ` [PATCH 12/19] pnfs/blocklayout: plug block queues Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09 ` [PATCH 13/19] pnfs/blocklayout: correctly decrement extent length Christoph Hellwig
2015-02-09 6:01 ` NeilBrown
2015-02-09 18:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-21 16:09 ` [PATCH 14/19] pnfs/blocklayout: remove read-modify-write handling in bl_write_pagelist Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09 4:43 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09 ` [PATCH 15/19] pnfs/blocklayout: don't set pages uptodate Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09 4:48 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09 ` [PATCH 16/19] pnfs/blocklayout: rewrite extent tracking Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-25 14:36 ` Anna Schumaker
2014-08-25 14:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-08-26 9:06 ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-09-09 4:50 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09 ` [PATCH 17/19] pnfs/blocklayout: implement the return_range method Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09 4:03 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09 ` [PATCH 18/19] pnfs/blocklayout: return layouts on setattr Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09 4:09 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:09 ` [PATCH 19/19] pnfs/blocklayout: allocate separate pages for the layoutcommit payload Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09 4:52 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-08-21 16:13 ` pnfs block layout driver fixes V2 Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09 4:12 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-09-09 5:54 ` Christoph Hellwig
2014-09-09 14:40 ` Trond Myklebust
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