From: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@primarydata.com>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/14] nfsd/sunrpc: add support for a workqueue-based nfsd
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 12:11:18 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141203121118.21a32fe1@notabene.brown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1417544663-13299-1-git-send-email-jlayton@primarydata.com>
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On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 13:24:09 -0500 Jeff Layton <jlayton@primarydata.com>
wrote:
> tl;dr: this code works and is much simpler than the dedicated thread
> pool, but there are some latencies in the workqueue code that
> seem to keep it from being as fast as it could be.
>
> This patchset is a little skunkworks project that I've been poking at
> for the last few weeks. Currently nfsd uses a dedicated thread pool to
> handle RPCs, but that requires maintaining a rather large swath of
> "fiddly" code to handle the threads and transports.
>
> This patchset represents an alternative approach, which makes nfsd use
> workqueues to do its bidding rather than a dedicated thread pool. When a
> transport needs to do work, we simply queue it to the workqueue in
> softirq context and let it service the transport.
>
> The current draft is runtime-switchable via a new sunrpc pool_mode
> module parameter setting. When that's set to "workqueue", nfsd will use
> a workqueue-based service. One of the goals of this patchset was to
> *not* need to change any userland code, so starting it up using rpc.nfsd
> still works as expected. The only real difference is that the nfsdfs
> "threads" file is reinterpreted as the "max_active" value for the
> workqueue.
Hi Jeff,
I haven't looked very closely at the code, but in principal I think this is
an excellent idea. Having to set a number of threads manually was never
nice as it is impossible to give sensible guidance on what an appropriate
number is.
Tying max_active to "threads" doesn't really make sense I think.
"max_active" is a per-cpu number and I think the only meaningful numbers are
"1" (meaning concurrent works might mutually deadlock) or infinity (which is
approximated as 512). I would just ignore the "threads" number when
workqueues are used.... or maybe enable workqueues when "auto" is written to
"threads"??
Using a shrinker to manage the allocation and freeing of svc_rqst is a
really good idea. It will put pressure on the effective number of threads
when needed, but will not artificially constrain things.
The combination of workqueue and shrinker seems like a perfect match for
nfsd.
I hope you can work out the latency issues!
Thanks,
NeilBrown
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Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-12-02 18:24 [RFC PATCH 00/14] nfsd/sunrpc: add support for a workqueue-based nfsd Jeff Layton
2014-12-02 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH 01/14] sunrpc: add a new svc_serv_ops struct and move sv_shutdown into it Jeff Layton
2014-12-02 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH 02/14] sunrpc: move sv_function into sv_ops Jeff Layton
2014-12-02 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH 03/14] sunrpc: move sv_module parm " Jeff Layton
2014-12-02 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH 04/14] sunrpc: turn enqueueing a svc_xprt into a svc_serv operation Jeff Layton
2014-12-02 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH 05/14] sunrpc: abstract out svc_set_num_threads to sv_ops Jeff Layton
2014-12-02 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH 06/14] sunrpc: move pool_mode definitions into svc.h Jeff Layton
2014-12-02 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH 07/14] sunrpc: factor svc_rqst allocation and freeing from sv_nrthreads refcounting Jeff Layton
2014-12-02 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH 08/14] sunrpc: set up workqueue function in svc_xprt Jeff Layton
2014-12-02 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH 09/14] sunrpc: add basic support for workqueue-based services Jeff Layton
2014-12-08 20:47 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-12-08 20:49 ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-02 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH 10/14] nfsd: keep a reference to the fs_struct in svc_rqst Jeff Layton
2014-12-02 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH 11/14] nfsd: add support for workqueue based service processing Jeff Layton
2014-12-02 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH 12/14] sunrpc: keep a cache of svc_rqsts for each NUMA node Jeff Layton
2014-12-02 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH 13/14] sunrpc: add more tracepoints around svc_xprt handling Jeff Layton
2014-12-02 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH 14/14] sunrpc: add tracepoints around svc_sock handling Jeff Layton
2014-12-02 19:18 ` [RFC PATCH 00/14] nfsd/sunrpc: add support for a workqueue-based nfsd Tejun Heo
2014-12-02 19:26 ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-02 19:29 ` Tejun Heo
2014-12-02 19:26 ` Tejun Heo
2014-12-02 19:46 ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-03 1:11 ` NeilBrown [this message]
2014-12-03 1:29 ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-03 15:56 ` Tejun Heo
2014-12-03 16:04 ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-03 19:02 ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-03 19:08 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-12-03 19:20 ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-03 19:59 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-12-03 20:21 ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-03 20:44 ` Trond Myklebust
2014-12-04 11:47 ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-04 17:17 ` Shirley Ma
2014-12-04 17:28 ` Jeff Layton
2014-12-04 17:44 ` Shirley Ma
2014-12-03 16:50 ` Chuck Lever
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