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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, hch@lst.de, kinglongmee@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 14/20] nfsd: close cached files prior to a REMOVE or RENAME that would replace target
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 08:19:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150828081947.37d4f018@synchrony.poochiereds.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150827133806.GA10468@fieldses.org>

On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 09:38:06 -0400
"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 06:53:31PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > On Wed, 26 Aug 2015 16:00:32 -0400
> > "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 07:17:14AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > > It's not uncommon for some workloads to do a bunch of I/O to a file and
> > > > delete it just afterward. If knfsd has a cached open file however, then
> > > > the file may still be open when the dentry is unlinked. If the
> > > > underlying filesystem is nfs, then that could trigger it to do a
> > > > sillyrename.
> > > 
> > > Possibly worth noting that situation doesn't currently occur upstream.
> > > 
> > > (And, another justification worth noting: space used by a file should be
> > > deallocated on last unlink or close.  People do sometimes notice if it's
> > > not, especially if the file is large.)
> > > 
> > 
> > Good points.
> > 
> > > > On a REMOVE or RENAME scan the nfsd_file cache for open files that
> > > > correspond to the inode, and proactively unhash and put their
> > > > references. This should prevent any delete-on-last-close activity from
> > > > occurring, solely due to knfsd's open file cache.
> > > 
> > > Is there anything here to prevent a new cache entry being added after
> > > nfsd_file_close_inode and before the file is actually removed?
> > > 
> > 
> > No, nothing -- it's strictly best effort.
> 
> Unfortunately I think this is something we really want to guarantee.
> 

That should be doable.

One question though -- if we hit this race, what's the right way to
handle it?

We don't want to return nfserr_stale or anything since we won't know if
the inode will really be stale after the remove completes. We could
just be removing one link from a multiply-linked inode.

We also don't want to make the caller wait out nfsd_file_acquire, as the
file could be open via NFSv4 and those references might not get put for
quite some time.

What semantics should we be aiming for?
-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-28 12:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-20 11:17 [PATCH v3 00/20] nfsd: open file caching Jeff Layton
2015-08-20 11:17 ` [PATCH v3 01/20] nfsd: allow more than one laundry job to run at a time Jeff Layton
2015-08-20 11:17 ` [PATCH v3 02/20] nfsd: add a new struct file caching facility to nfsd Jeff Layton
2015-08-20 23:11   ` Peng Tao
2015-08-20 23:43     ` Jeff Layton
2015-08-20 11:17 ` [PATCH v3 03/20] list_lru: add list_lru_rotate Jeff Layton
2015-08-21  9:36   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-08-20 11:17 ` [PATCH v3 04/20] nfsd: add a LRU list for nfsd_files Jeff Layton
2015-08-20 11:17 ` [PATCH v3 05/20] nfsd: add a shrinker to the nfsd_file cache Jeff Layton
2015-08-20 11:17 ` [PATCH v3 06/20] locks/nfsd: create a new notifier chain for lease attempts Jeff Layton
2015-08-26 19:49   ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-08-26 22:39     ` Jeff Layton
2015-08-20 11:17 ` [PATCH v3 07/20] nfsd: hook up nfsd_write to the new nfsd_file cache Jeff Layton
2015-08-26 19:53   ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-08-26 22:40     ` Jeff Layton
2015-08-20 11:17 ` [PATCH v3 08/20] nfsd: hook up nfsd_read to the " Jeff Layton
2015-08-20 11:17 ` [PATCH v3 09/20] sunrpc: add a new cache_detail operation for when a cache is flushed Jeff Layton
2015-08-20 11:17 ` [PATCH v3 10/20] nfsd: handle NFSD_MAY_NOT_BREAK_LEASE in open file cache Jeff Layton
2015-08-20 11:17 ` [PATCH v3 11/20] nfsd: hook nfsd_commit up to the nfsd_file cache Jeff Layton
2015-08-20 11:17 ` [PATCH v3 12/20] nfsd: move include of state.h from trace.c to trace.h Jeff Layton
2015-08-20 11:17 ` [PATCH v3 13/20] nfsd: add new tracepoints for nfsd_file cache Jeff Layton
2015-08-20 11:17 ` [PATCH v3 14/20] nfsd: close cached files prior to a REMOVE or RENAME that would replace target Jeff Layton
2015-08-26 20:00   ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-08-26 22:53     ` Jeff Layton
2015-08-27 13:38       ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-08-28 12:19         ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2015-08-28 17:58           ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-08-31 16:50             ` Jeff Layton
2015-08-20 11:17 ` [PATCH v3 15/20] nfsd: call flush_delayed_fput from nfsd_file_close_fh Jeff Layton
2015-08-21  1:01   ` Peng Tao
2015-08-21  2:18     ` Peng Tao
2015-08-21 11:21       ` Jeff Layton
2015-08-20 11:17 ` [PATCH v3 16/20] nfsd: convert nfs4_file->fi_fds array to use nfsd_files Jeff Layton
2015-08-20 11:17 ` [PATCH v3 17/20] nfsd: have nfsd_test_lock use the nfsd_file cache Jeff Layton
2015-08-20 11:17 ` [PATCH v3 18/20] nfsd: convert fi_deleg_file and ls_file fields to nfsd_file Jeff Layton
2015-08-20 11:17 ` [PATCH v3 19/20] nfsd: hook up nfs4_preprocess_stateid_op to the nfsd_file cache Jeff Layton
2015-08-21  1:28   ` Peng Tao
2015-08-21 11:23     ` Jeff Layton
2015-08-20 11:17 ` [PATCH v3 20/20] nfsd: rip out the raparms cache Jeff Layton

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