From: Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com>
To: Bruce James Fields <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>,
Andrew W Elble <aweits@rit.edu>,
Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nfsd: fix nfsd4_delegreturn to return correct error codes
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 12:00:51 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151106120051.6f380290@synchrony.poochiereds.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151106152914.GA16006@fieldses.org>
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:29:14 -0500
Bruce James Fields <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 06, 2015 at 09:19:47AM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:03:50 -0500
> > Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Trond Myklebust
> > > <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com> wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Andrew W Elble <aweits@rit.edu> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Umm... If the client is sending delegreturn, then why not destroy the
> > > >>> delegation?
>
> Yeah, good question, I didn't think about that.
>
> The one thing that bothers me:
>
> > Hmm...so is there any advantage to reporting NFS4ERR_DELEG_REVOKED
> > there at all? I guess that could be a signal that it may not have held
> > a delegation that it thought it had,
>
> Yes, I'd like to think a little about this. It does worry me that the
> loss of a delegation could be completely silent.
>
> Even in the absence of locks, userspace may now have gotten incorrect
> lookup or stat results. (Unless the client is careful not to depend on
> delegations for any guarantees that go beyond close-to-open?)
>
> So,
>
> client1 client2
> ------- -------
>
> make prog
> (client2 gets delegation on prog.c)
>
> vi prog.c
> (client2's deleg recalled, then
> revoked)
>
> wait for ac timeout
> make prog
> make: 'prog' is up to date
>
> Hm, I think the client has to see a STATUS_RECALLABLE_STATE_REVOKED at
> some point here, though.
>
> In fact, is there any situation this could happen without the client
> having seeing that flag on the SEQUENCE preceding this op? I guess
> there could be an extremely narrow window for a race between the two
> ops. Is that race is the only justification for having this error in
> the protocol at all? In the typical case it's going to see the sequence
> flag at the same time as the error and have to do some kind of recovery
> anyway.
>
Yes, I think a revoke would have to race in between the SEQUENCE and
DELEGRETURN for it to happen.
> > but it's probably too late to do anything about it if that occurs.
>
> Yeah, I can't think what the client could do beyond log something
> scary.
>
> > Some older clients may also not handle that error gracefully too,
>
> Is it likely? (How's the current client?) Not sure what ungraceful
> handling would be, though, it would be an odd client that would do
> anything other than either FREE_STATEID or just give up.
>
I think the current client will handle it sanely. I believe we detach
the delegation from the inode before issuing a delegreturn, so we
shouldn't end up triggering a new one from nfs4_handle_exception (which
was my main concern).
> I don't see any reason this case needs to be optimized, so if clients
> handle the REVOKED error then maybe it's OK.
>
> > so just returning NFS4_OK might be best...
>
> Anyway, after all that, yes, maybe so, if only out of conservatism
> about change.
>
Yeah, that might be best, at least until we can come up with a reason
to change it.
--
Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-06 17:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-04 22:07 [PATCH] nfsd: fix nfsd4_delegreturn to return correct error codes Andrew Elble
2015-11-05 21:58 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-11-05 22:31 ` Trond Myklebust
2015-11-06 13:08 ` Andrew W Elble
2015-11-06 13:48 ` Trond Myklebust
2015-11-06 14:03 ` Trond Myklebust
2015-11-06 14:19 ` Jeff Layton
2015-11-06 15:29 ` Bruce James Fields
2015-11-06 17:00 ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2015-11-06 12:28 ` Jeff Layton
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