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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>
Cc: Donald Buczek <buczek@molgen.mpg.de>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna.schumaker@netapp.com>,
	Linux NFS Mailing List <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] NFSv4: Don't perform cached access checks before we've OPENed the file
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 17:57:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151227175709.GH20997@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHQdGtRSPrV=eV_VEGbpp47qfpW93GSouoEzaseHDq5enMtCDg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 11:23:55AM -0500, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > PS:
> >
> > I don't yet understand the point of execute_ok. It doesn't even consider the
> > uid.
> 
> ...or the group ownership or anything other than whether or not at
> least one execute bit is set. That's a convention that was set in the
> VFS a long time ago,

... by yourself, if you recall the patch that moved that check from
open_exec() to permission(), to get consistency between access() and
execve().

> and that Miklos' patches later pushed down into
> the filesystems.
> I'm OK with removing it, if someone can explain to me what it was
> intended to enforce in the first place, so that we can have a
> discussion about why it may be obsolete.

"Not even root gets to execute a binary that doesn't have a single exec bit
on it" goes _way_ back.  And not just in terms of Linux -
v5 /usr/sys/ken/fio.c:access() has
        if(u.u_uid == 0) {
                if(m == IEXEC && (ip->i_mode & 
                        (IEXEC | (IEXEC>>3) | (IEXEC>>6))) == 0)
                                return(1);
                return(0);
        }
so this had been introduced somewhere between v3 and v5 (AFAIK, v4 source
is gone and I hadn't crawled through the v4 manpages to see if that has
got a mention).  At the very least it's been there since Nov 26 1974...

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-27 17:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-25 12:30 [PATCH] nfs: do not deny execute access based on outdated mode in inode Donald Buczek
2015-12-26 18:36 ` Trond Myklebust
2015-12-26 23:58   ` Donald Buczek
2015-12-27  0:11     ` Trond Myklebust
2015-12-27  0:38       ` Al Viro
2015-12-27  1:26         ` Trond Myklebust
2015-12-27  2:28           ` Al Viro
2015-12-27  2:54             ` Trond Myklebust
2015-12-27  3:06               ` [PATCH] NFSv4: Don't perform cached access checks before we've OPENed the file Trond Myklebust
2015-12-27 12:18                 ` Donald Buczek
2015-12-27 16:23                   ` Trond Myklebust
2015-12-27 17:57                     ` Al Viro [this message]
2015-12-28 19:38                     ` [PATCH] nfs: revalidate inode before access checks Donald Buczek
2015-12-28 21:10                       ` Trond Myklebust
2015-12-29  0:40                         ` [PATCH] NFS: Ensure we revalidate attributes before using execute_ok() Trond Myklebust
2015-12-29 19:51                           ` Donald Buczek
2015-12-29 20:18                             ` Trond Myklebust
2015-12-30  0:02                               ` [PATCH] NFS: Fix attribute cache revalidation Trond Myklebust
2015-12-30 11:23                                 ` Donald Buczek
2015-12-30 14:04                                   ` Trond Myklebust

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